kansas vs. UNI illegal substitution?

[Fathertime]

I was in the arena and caught that as well. They removed one of their 3 point shooters and put him back in.

[CoachFred]

What a game to go to....unless you are a Kansas fan. I am glad somebody else caught this. I am sure the UNI coach was too concerned with what was going on with his team imploding to notice Kansas putting their shooter back in.

[btaylor64]

I don't know the rule in college but is it possible that bc this is a change of the team who possessed the ball that the sub is allowed??? Just wondering.

With that being said. That was the most well officiated last 5 min. of a game I have seen in college basketball!! They made the right calls at the right times with no reserve and care who is who in the game. Mike Nance especially put on a clinic in the last 2 min.

[alillard88]

Per the NCAA Rule Book (Rule 3, Section 4, Article 13)

Art. 13. A player who has been withdrawn or replaced by a substitute may re-enter
the game at the next opportunity to substitute, provided that the game clock has been
properly started after the withdrawal or replacement.

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by alillard88

Per the NCAA Rule Book (Rule 3, Section 4, Article 13)

Art. 13. A player who has been withdrawn or replaced by a substitute may re-enter
the game at the next opportunity to substitute, provided that the game clock has been
properly started after the withdrawal or replacement.

Just out of curiosity, how is this rule enforced? Most scorekeepers, based on my experience, do not track each and every substitution. The officials certainly have other things to worry about. What if UNI's coach would have pointed out the situation to the R, but then KU's staff says "no that wasn't him that just came off the floor"? If the scorekeeper can't help, how would the situation be resolved?

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by KCRC

Just out of curiosity, how is this rule enforced? Most scorekeepers, based on my experience, do not track each and every substitution. The officials certainly have other things to worry about. What if UNI's coach would have pointed out the situation to the R, but then KU's staff says "no that wasn't him that just came off the floor"? If the scorekeeper can't help, how would the situation be resolved?

At the DI college level, every substitute is tracked when they leave and enter the game.

-Josh

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by jdmara

At the DI college level, every substitute is tracked when they leave and enter the game.

-Josh

Thank you. So, is it then the responsibility of the scorekeeper to bring any illegal substitions to the attention of the R?

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by jdmara

At the DI college level, every substitute is tracked when they leave and enter the game.

-Josh

Correct - And sometimes below as well, typically they have the computerized play by play to reference if the issue comes up.

It is my understanding this is one of the jobs of the alternate during the conf tourney's and beyond to oversee.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I don't know the rule in college but is it possible that bc this is a change of the team who possessed the ball that the sub is allowed??? Just wondering.

Change of possesession doesn't matter....only the clock starting.

You could have a sequence of several fouls/violations on throwins and/or FTs all before clock starts and anyone subbed out along the way would have to remain out until the next opportunity after the clock starts.

[Nevadaref]

The same thing happened in the 1st round game between Montana and New Mexico. The officials caught it and correctly prevented Montana from reinserting their big center (#41) with about 22 seconds to play.

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I don't know the rule in college but is it possible that bc this is a change of the team who possessed the ball that the sub is allowed???

If you don't know the rules, and won't bother to study them, then why the heck do you continue to officiate at the college level?
I've told you this before, you are a detriment to the crew every time you step onto an NCAA floor. If your goal is the pro game, then you should focus on that and stop accepting assignments at other levels.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The same thing happened in the 1st round game between Montana and New Mexico. The officials caught it and correctly prevented Montana from reinserting their big center (#41) with about 22 seconds to play.



If you don't know the rules, and won't bother to study them, then why the heck do you continue to officiate at the college level?
I've told you this before, you are a detriment to the crew every time you step onto an NCAA floor. If your goal is the pro game, then you should focus on that and stop accepting assignments at other levels.

Thanks for the advice, Ill take that into consideration.