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sseltser Sun Mar 21, 2010 08:48pm

Thrower tosses ball to official
 
I know we've talked about this before and the solutions have been to catch it and throw it back, bat it to the floor, or (my favorite, but probably wouldn't do it) duck!

I believe it was the WVU - Mizzou game today and I believe the official was Jim Burr, although I was watching two games at once, so I can't recall for sure.

In any case, after a basket by B, A1 takes the ball from the net and throws it to the official. The official caught the ball and placed it on the floor right next to him and started his count. What made it interesting was that A1 was still probably 15 feet away or so and had to run over to get the ball and still try to inbound it against B's press. Maybe this happened earlier in the game so the official spoke to the kid and told him not to do it, and this was his response.

Anybody else see this today?

johnnyrao Sun Mar 21, 2010 08:53pm

I didn't see that particular play but I did see it earlier in the game and Burr tossed the ball back. My guess is it was a way for WVU to eat up a couple of extra seconds off the clock and Burr caught on to it. Not a bad way to kill a second or two but it can backfire if you do it too much.

bas2456 Sun Mar 21, 2010 09:31pm

I saw that too.

I would say that in college basketball, the players should know by now that you don't need to give the ball to the official after a made basket. I would toss it back once, then after that, either catch it and put it at my feet or just let it go past me entirely.

mbyron Mon Mar 22, 2010 06:35am

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Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 669692)
I saw that too.

I would say that in college basketball, the players should know by now that you don't need to give the ball to the official after a made basket. I would toss it back once, then after that, either catch it and put it at my feet or just let it go past me entirely.

Players do this when their team is ahead in order to waste time. Don't abet them.

CoachP Mon Mar 22, 2010 07:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 669737)
Players do this when their team is ahead in order to waste time. Don't abet them.

In NFHS, make it a point in the captains meeting?

Indianaref Mon Mar 22, 2010 07:40am

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 669743)
In NFHS, make it a point in the captains meeting?

If that's the case, there can be 1000 points to address in captains meeting.

Raymond Mon Mar 22, 2010 07:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 669743)
In NFHS, make it a point in the captains meeting?

Because the captain is going to remind all his teammates later on? :rolleyes:

CoachP Mon Mar 22, 2010 08:15am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 669747)
If that's the case, there can be 1000 points to address in captains meeting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 669751)
Because the captain is going to remind all his teammates later on? :rolleyes:

If it's really an issue, why not?

My captains take it seriously. They came back one time this year and said "Coach! They said we have to have BOTH feet next to the lane on FT's"

bob jenkins Mon Mar 22, 2010 08:16am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 669737)
Players do this when their team is ahead in order to waste time. Don't abet them.

This usually happens in the last minute, and the clock isn't running then (in college). (I didn't see the play in question to know when it happened.)

sseltser Mon Mar 22, 2010 09:11am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 669763)
This usually happens in the last minute, and the clock isn't running then (in college). (I didn't see the play in question to know when it happened.)

Certainly happened with more than one minute. Basically just a ploy to get the press offense set up without using any of the alotted 5 seconds. Maybe to let the clock run for a few extra seconds, too. My guess is that Burr caught on, said something, and went with this remedy.

BillyMac Mon Mar 22, 2010 04:45pm

Does The Line Ever Not Go All The Way Around ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 669747)
If that's the case, there can be 1000 points to address in captains meeting.

Yeah. Like, "Its the black line all the way around.", and 999 other points to address.


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