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just another ref Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:41pm
Remove 4.19.8 C from the case book. Nobody would ever come to this conclusion on his own based on the applicable rules involved.

Nevadaref Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:37am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668397)
Undershirts may not have sleeves which extend past the elbow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 668402)
Reasoning?
1. They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.
2. Would match the current NCAA rule.

just another ref Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:48am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668435)
They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.
Sleeves above the elbow are necessary?

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 16, 2010 07:12am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668435)
1. They are unnecessary as basketball is an indoor game.
2. Would match the current NCAA rule.
What's the difference between wearing 2 shooting sleeves under an undershirt with sleeves down too the elbow?

Raymond Tue Mar 16, 2010 07:45am
down and dirty:

If Team A is not awarded merited free throws and then Team A subsequently scores during the CE timeframe then the CE timeframe shall be deem terminated/expired.

Desired result: no more situations where Team A gets fouled, is not awarded merited free throws, Team A scores on subsenquent possession, then prior to next live ball CE is recognized, after which Team A is awarded free throws on top of the points Team A just scored.

Adam Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:33am
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyo96 (Post 668394)
Rule 1: I would like to see the arrow switch when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower. Would make it uniform when there was a foul or violation that the Team throwing "used" the arrow.
+7
M&M, take note. I'm not alone.

CoachP Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 668363)
OK - usually the desired NF change that gets the most support here is only allowing players on the court to request and be granted a timeout.
Seriously, what's the big deal? I know 44.92% of all statistics are made up, but maybe one time out of ten, I called for a timeout before a player of mine was trapped, or was about to violate. The other 9 were OBVIOUS to the granting official, such as after a 8-0 run by the opponent.

Also, my rule change vote is for lane restrictions to end on the release of the last free throw.

Mrcrash3 Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 668368)
Time-outs requested by players only on a live ball would be very popular among officials, but getting the genie back in the bottle would be difficult.

I hope that, finally, players not returning directly to the court immediately after a throw-in would result in a violation.
I am fine with the T penalty in HS remaining the same. Unsporting conduct should carry a more severe penalty. And if a team is disadvantaged disproportionately, then they can be PO'd at the offender.
+1 I don't believe this is getting called as a T,
So make it a violation and it should be called more...

Mechanic: fists to hips for a block instead of palms :)

Nevadaref Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 668443)
What's the difference between wearing 2 shooting sleeves under an undershirt with sleeves down too the elbow?
Nothing. For the record, I'm against the wearing of arm/elbow sleeves as well, unless for an injury which is substantiated by documentation from a medical professional.

Adam Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668516)
Nothing. For the record, I'm against the wearing of arm/elbow sleeves as well, unless for an injury which is substantiated by documentation from a medical professional.
What about religious reasons?

Nevadaref Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:47pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 668517)
What about religious reasons?
Basketball is a religion. :D

Adam Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668518)
Basketball is a religion. :D
Amen

Camron Rust Tue Mar 16, 2010 01:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 668516)
Nothing. For the record, I'm against the wearing of arm/elbow sleeves as well, unless for an injury which is substantiated by documentation from a medical professional.
Why? There is no fundamental basis for disallowing them.

And what is the difference between wearing a long sleeve undershirt vs. a short sleeve undershirt with arm/elbow sleeves....absolutely nothing aside from an arbitrary rule saying one is illegal.

Same thing for tights vs. compressions shorts, longish trucks, and really tall socks.

Some of these uniform rules have no reason to exsist aside from someone, somewhere in Nevada just not liking them.

Adam Tue Mar 16, 2010 02:00pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 668524)
Some of these uniform rules have no reason to exsist aside from someone, somewhere in Nevada just not liking them.
That's not enough of a reason?

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 16, 2010 03:06pm
Uniform rules should be enforced by the home AD's who are automatically appointed as special Uniform Constables by the respective state offices. Let them worry about the enforcement and penalties, and let us stick to worrying about the game.


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