so much fun...and nightmare
 

Went to a playoff game last night and I had a blast...yelling at the refs. Kept it civil:). I'm not going to be that douche who goes to games to rip refs. Lost my voice for a bit. A few strange calls but they did just fine. But oh man was it fun to yell. Give it a try sometime if you guys aren't because it was a blast being a fan.
But then when I went to sleep last night I had a dream where I was a ref in a packed house. first my toss was awful, and the crowd was silent except for who fan who yelled "That was terrible". Then during the game my whistle stopped working. More mess. So was that nightmare a warning not to yell at the refs? Yeah, for sure. But I'm not learning my lesson. Now every year I ref I'm going to make sure to get out and see some of the games and well be a FAN. Bring on the stupidity!!!!!!!;)

Why don't you pretend to be an announcer? Then you can act really stupid. :rolleyes:

Good job yelling at the officials? :confused:

:D:DWhen I go to games in a "non official" capacity, I really enjoy heckling THE FANS!! I love the looks on their faces when I get to say some of the things I WANT to say on the court but cant.
"Ref the foul count is 7 -2" --- "Yeah, can't believe Team X keeps fouling, they should stop"
"Their over the back!!" --- "So?"
"Why isn't THAT A FOUL" --- "Simple, because....."
I am usually REALLY popular by the end of the game. Of course I tell them that I AM an official but I tell them I am from another association and give them a false name!!:D

Rooting for your team is fine. Yelling at the refs, no matter how "civil" is not.

At least I can understand "fan boys" doing it, but a ref who does it is an embarassment.

Well, someone already uses 'Skippy Weaselpants', so I hope you come up with something original.

I did that when there was a fumble and this guy goes "this isn't football". I said, yeah it is basketball! No travel.
One bad call the ref made was a 10 second backcourt when he went by the shot clock. Tsk tsk, It was actually like 5 or 6 seconds. The other team nearly stole the ball at the inbounds and there wasn't control for a few seconds. Never use the shot clock!
It was also kind of funny seeing all the refs in different jackets at the start. They were fine though and didn't let the game fall apart with some players that were close to getting T's.

+1...especially for the "embarassment".

Our association suspends officials for acts like that. Perception is reality to fans watching someone yelling at officials.

Could you please post your schedule next year so we can come yell at you...you are a complete A$$ HAT!!!!

When does the shot clock start on a throw in?

Try Pat McCrotch. :p

waaaa. don't be such sourpusses. I love it when I'm reffing games and the fans are loud. As long as they don't cross the line it's all good. The bigger the crowd the better the game. My yelling was good natured and when others were yelling too. packed house. I didn't do anything out of the ordinary or anything like yelling when it was silent or bad mouthing them.
Gee just because your a ref you should just sit and watch the game silently. please. What about other sports? what about March Madness. I know I'll be yelling at the tv and having a good time. I had a lot of fun being a fan and critiquing the refs as well who I already said did just fine. The game is a lot more fun when you are actually trying to be involved in it.

There is a huge difference between cheering for your team and criticizing someone. While they both start with the letter "C", cheering and criticizm are not the same.
As an official you or, are should be, an unbiased observer. As a fan, you are obviously biased, and calls that are correct when viewed unbiasedly seem wrong when viewed by the lens of a fan. You will do your team, reputation and officiating career a much GREATER service by being loud and vocal in SUPPORT of your team then you will in being critical of officials at the game.

Being a fan doesn't give you carte blanche to yell at the officials good nature or not. No one said you had to be silent, but cheering for your team doesn't have to include yelling at the game officials. I've actually found sports to be more enjoying now that I don't focus on what or wasn't called and focus on the game.

As far as other sports, I do not yell at the game officials of any sport. I do not know the rules and mechanics as well as they do and to act like I do and yell at the officials like I do, wouldn't make me any better than the common fanboy.

I also wonder, what kind of response did you expect to receive? You, being an official, told a group of other officials that you had a fun time yelling at other officials during a game.

". Now every year I ref I'm going to make sure to get out and see some of the games and well be a FAN. Bring on the stupidity!!!!!!!"

tongue in cheek. I'm merely saying it was fun being a typical fan. Some ribbing of the refs when I disagree with a call while I might have done the same thing if I was officiating. If others here can't do it well then their loss. I'd rather not be a robot and sit there evaluating the refs. Better being involved in the game, yelling things like COME ON REF, etc, etc. I didn't yell too much and a lot was for the teams and not against the refs. Not fun always being neutral.

You just don't get it, do you, fanboy?

Too bad. And sad.

how about Richard Crainium. Sounds fitting.:D

+1

I go with:
Lance Aboyal
R. J. Nabisco
John Coctoastansenjen
Lou Natic
Billy Gene King - Bug Busters
Fuzzy Liftingdrink

Reminds me of Lonesome Dove when they hung Jake, "He done crossed the line!" Anybody got rope?

There is a very fine line between "being involved in the game" and "being openly critical of the officials." A friend of mine got into some trouble for this years ago. I don't know that we have the power to suspend an independent contractor as an association. I am sure that the OHSAA can, though.

It is not realistic to be quiet during a game, but, if folks around you KNOW that you are an official AND you berate fellow officials, you are by your actions, condoning such activity. This is not a good idea. An occasional comment can be accepted, but incessant yelling can get you into trouble.

Mutant, enjoy the game, yell for your team all you want, just be careful not to cross that line.

I didn't. And posting here for a while you realize that some posters like Jurassic are just crybabies. According to him it seems refs never make mistakes and god forbid if you point it out and when they do Only he is the rightful judge on if they messed up. I've had other refs watch my games with their kids their or if they are alumni and they made similar comments to what I did. No big deal. There was another thread about a ref doing that all the time but mine was just some mild yelling in with a crowd of people also yelling and cheering.

Nobody is saying sit like a robot. Weare saying yell encouraging things for your team all you want - this means Go team, nice shot, DEFENSE, way to go, MVP, etc. Positive things. I would tell the same to any parent or fan -- but for a referee to think bashing and egging on the referees is appropriate... I don't understand how you think that is right.

We do. Our members have to follow all of our association's rules and regulations as a condition of membership. Our constitution is written to reflect all of those and the penalties are laid out for failing to do so also. And the members themselves set and approve by majority vote all of our various rules, regulations and penalties. And there is an appeal process in place for all discipline procedures too. We have a member who is an attorney and we had the constitution vetted by him for compliance with any laws that might be applicable.

I also do know that IAABO associations(boards) can also similary suspend, expel and/or fine their members for failing to follow their association rules and regulations. They have a set appeal process also.

That's why we don't have to put up with the mutantduckies of the world. If they don't want to act within our set rules of professionalism, we don't want 'em or need 'em. It's Hasta La Vista, fanboy. Go sit in the stands with the other fanboys and feel free to do whatever you want to do.

+1

The REAL nightmare
 

It may be that word gets back to an assignor or two.

I usually will sit in the referee cheering section when I attend games. Sometimes it is just me, sometimes there will be others. We may voice observations to one another, but we also will give kudos to a great call...especially an off ball call. I watch games totally differently now. Point is, we are NOT on the floor. We do NOT have the same angles. And if our opinion is needed by the crew, we will be asked.

If there was a ref in the stands yelling at me about my calls, I'd smack that jacka$$ upside the head with a frying pan.

Or - maybe give him one of these. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/nutkick.gif

Also, I'd eject him from the gym and if he didn't leave, have him arrested for trespassing, which we can do under state law here in Oregon.

the only time i give other officials a hard time is when it is one of my good friends. Even then it is good natured things like "hey reff, I found your cell phone and you have 4 missed calls. that is alot of fun for us in our association. I have a hard time believiing our friend here was really giving the officials a seriously hard time. i hope it was only good natured ribbing that I would get a kick out of if my friends were doing it to me. Anything else is off limits.;)

That 'joke' is so overused, that you should have been ejected the old fashioned way.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vwt55TQq-3...+off+stage.jpg

Funny you have that pic. that is exactly what I do to officials who make bad calls.:D There are no bad calls.....some are just better than others.(old too I supose):rolleyes:

Mark,
Having a hard time reading you here, are you saying it REALLY p!sses you off?

Thought the Yukon reference was fitting.

You've got enough for all of us.

JR,
I hate to hijack Mutant's thread, but I am thinking he may not mind at this point. If you would have an official in your association who complained enough during a game that a fellow member filed a complaint with your association, what action would your association likely take (assuming the complaining was substantiated similar to the admission in this thread)? Would the action be taken based on what the NFHS Offiicials Manual, Rules Books, etc. say, would the action be based on a clause in the State HS manual or would the action be based on a clause within the rules of your association?

Just curious. Thanks.

quite.;)

We don't need a complaint to be filed to do something about an incident like this. If we find out about one of our members doing something like what was described in the OP, we'd take immediate action. And we would take that action based on our own written constitution and it's attendant rules and regulations. One of our major no-no's is that you don't criticize fellow officials publicly or privately with coachs, players and especially fans.

Our local constitution is fairly similar to most IAABO constitutions. To be quite honest, we stole a lot of things years ago from their template(BillyMac just had an orgasm :D). Check out this representative IAABO website:

IAABO 31 Home Page

Click on "CONSTITUTION" and check out ArticleV Section 1 as well as the penalties listed under that. Our constitution is similar in some but not all areas.

If we run into a situation locally like the one in this thread, we'd bring the official in for a good talk. We'd explain the reasons why we implemented the rule and why we don't allow any exceptions. We also explain the consequences if it ever happens again. Second time is a fine and/or suspension. Third time is Sayonara. Believe it or not, this ain't that uncommon either, especially in newer officials who are going through that "I know everything about officiating" stage that we all went through.....until we learned just how much we still had to learn.:eek: The first discipline stage seems to work usually if they really are interested in advancing in the future as an official. If not, they usually weed themselves out anyway. Or they stick around and complain that they're in their seventh year and they're still not getting varsity games.:rolleyes: