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Rich Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 664548)
How do you even know about these?

My first year was 1987. It was the first season of the 3-point line in my state at the time (Pennsylvania). We still had the lack of action, Cadillac mechanics (that survived till the early-to-mid 90s, I think), and Byron collar shirts as well as many officials in belted pants. We also did that funny little count where we flicked our wrists from the waist level instead of swinging our arms as we do now.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Feb 25, 2010 01:59pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 664764)
My first year was 1987. It was the first season of the 3-point line in my state at the time (Pennsylvania). We still had the lack of action, Cadillac mechanics (that survived till the early-to-mid 90s, I think), and Byron collar shirts as well as many officials in belted pants. We also did that funny little count where we flicked our wrists from the waist level instead of swinging our arms as we do now.



Ah, sweet memories. :D

MTD, Sr.

ref2coach Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:07pm

What are "Cadillac mechanics"?

Rich Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 664823)
Ah, sweet memories. :D

MTD, Sr.

And I forgot the fist straight up to the sky with the requisite delayed bird-dog at the waist.

And also coming in as the trail to administer ALL free throws even though the lead had to come in to announce how many throws were left.

And also the early days of 3-person where the C was always opposite the table and the L would have to swing around if he came ballside (to the C's side).

I'm sure we could go on....

Rich Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by ref2coach (Post 664830)
What are "Cadillac mechanics"?

The trail and the lead were always on the "left" side of the court (from their perspective boxing in the play). If you had to "work opposite" because of a throw-in, you'd switch over sides of the court during live ball play at the first opportunity.

Truly baffling that we did that as if we couldn't work the court on the "right" side as well as the "left" side. But we did it for YEARS.

ref2coach Thu Feb 25, 2010 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 664823)
Ah, sweet memories. :D

MTD, Sr.

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 664833)
And I forgot the fist straight up to the sky with the requisite delayed bird-dog at the waist.

Our association still requires bird-dog on all but player control fouls. :rolleyes:

BillyMac Thu Feb 25, 2010 07:35pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 664834)
The trail and the lead were always on the "left" side of the court (from their perspective boxing in the play). If you had to "work opposite" because of a throw-in, you'd switch over sides of the court during live ball play at the first opportunity. Truly baffling that we did that as if we couldn't work the court on the "right" side as well as the "left" side. But we did it for years.

RichMSN: Nice description.

The trail forced the switch to the very comfortable Cadillac position. I had partners who absolutely hated working opposite. As the trail they would actually run over to the "left" side of the court as soon as possible.

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ref2coach Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:38pm

So was the cadillac position what we would now call the "c"?

If the Lead and Trail tried to always stay on the "left" of the play, would that leave their partner in the cadillac for relatively long periods of time?

Adam Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:03am

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Originally Posted by ref2coach (Post 664945)
So was the cadillac position what we would now call the "c"?

If the Lead and Trail tried to always stay on the "left" of the play, would that leave their partner in the cadillac for relatively long periods of time?

It was a two-whistle mechanic that left each partner looking to their right at the players.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:17am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 664949)
It was a two-whistle mechanic that left each partner looking to their right at the players.

...and the "thinking" behind it was that players, being more right handed than left handed, were more likely to drive down the right side of the lane. The "Cadillac" position always put the lead on that side...ready to observe that play.

BillyMac Fri Feb 26, 2010 08:45pm

I May Be Left Handed, But I'm Always Right ...
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 665016)
Players, being more right handed than left handed, were more likely to drive down the right side of the lane. The "Cadillac" position always put the lead on that side, ready to observe that play.

So that's why I seldom got free throws. I'm left handed.

Anchor Fri Feb 26, 2010 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 664833)
And I forgot the fist straight up to the sky with the requisite delayed bird-dog at the waist.....

Here in NC we're still required to bird dog. Ugh!


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