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Raymond Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:22am
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660648)
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Speaking of old rules, I would love to get my hands on a rule book from 20 years ago, just to see how much the game and rules have changed.
I thought you already had that one. It's the 2009-10 one you were missing. :D

fullor30 Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:28am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 660702)
I thought you already had that one. It's the 2009-10 one you were missing. :D
Hey Yoooo! Rim shot!!

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:09am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 660693)
As far as I know, it's never been a travel. The important part, though, is that officials know it's not a travel now.
It's never been a travel in the 51 years that I've been getting rule books. And all anybody has to do to confirm that it still isn't a travel is to look in the current rule book under rule 4-42NOTE.

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:11am
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Originally Posted by richmsn (Post 660678)
the easy way around relying on others for information is to have the best knowledge of the rules in your area. That's done by, oh, studying the rulebook.
+1

Back In The Saddle Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:37am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 660672)
Disagree. There is a NFHS signal for a designated sp[ot violation, #26.
Oh sure, you had to go and be right. Didn't ya? ;)

representing Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:50am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 660735)
It's never been a travel in the 51 years that I've been getting rule books. And all anybody has to do to confirm that it still isn't a travel is to look in the current rule book under rule 4-42NOTE.
Ok, fine. But like I said, I got this information from an elder official who has officiated for so many years. I took him for his word. Just like you guys believed your parents growing up that there is a Santa :rolleyes:

Raymond Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:53am
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660761)
Ok, fine. But like I said, I got this information from an elder official who has officiated for so many years. I took him for his word. Just like you guys believed your parents growing up that there is a Santa :rolleyes:
Then you should have said "This vet told me...". Instead you stated it as a fact.

That's the difference.

representing Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:55am
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660639)
I've been told by a vet that this used to be a travel violation. Now, it's a throw-in violation. No real signal for this, I would just blow my whistle and point in the opposite direction to signal throw-in for opposite team. If any asks, then say "throw-in violation, moved outside 3-feet area".
corrected

Raymond Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:58am
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660765)
corrected
Most excellent.

A Pennsylvania Coach Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 660649)
caution!!!!!

relying on rules interpretations fabricated by this individual will severely impact your reputation, career and sanity.

you have been duly warned!!!!!
+1

referee99 Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:24pm
Right.
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 660672)
Disagree. There is a NFHS signal for a designated spot violation, #26.
Same one as when the thrower violates by taking more than 5 seconds to release the throw, right? ;)

representing Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 660778)
+1
Just be careful, I might get one of your games sometimes.

chartrusepengui Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660785)
just be careful, i might get one of your games sometimes.
+1 :d

Raymond Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by representing (Post 660785)
Just be careful, I might get one of your games sometimes.
Based on a couple of his stories, you may already have done his games. ;)

Camron Rust Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 660783)
Same one as when the thrower violates by taking more than 5 seconds to release the throw, right? ;)
Actually, no.

The signal for leaving the spot is to point at the spot with the index finger and sweep the hand away from the spot....similar to the signal given to indicated that the throw can run the endline (when that is appropriate).

The one for 5-seconds is holding up 5 fingers.


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