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Proper Call - Common Foul
7th Grade B - Church league - A1 picks up his dribble near foul line extended and I see him raise his arm with a fist to strike B1, I blow whistle, A1 complains he was poked in the eye on purpose, which I did not see, partner did not see, I call PF on A1 for raised fist. I report the foul and coach yells at me to call them both ways, he gets a T...explain to him did not see the poke in the eye, A1 walks by me mouthing to me, he gets a T...we shoot the FT's...no more problems
Did not know what to call with the raised Fist...I think I could have called an Intentional or Flagrant personal since the ball was live... In this church league there is no tollerance for unsportsmanship. The raised fist call, A1 did not strike B1: PF? - Intentional? |
Flagrant. Falls under the definition of fighting (4-18).
"Fighting is a flagrant act and can occur when the ball is dead or live. Fighting includes, but is not limited to combative acts such as: ART. 1 . . . An attempt to strike, punch or kick by using a fist, hands, arms, legs or feet regardless of whether contact is made. ART. 2 . . . An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act that causes a person to retaliate by fighting." |
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I don't personally. I consider it an unsporting act and call the foul accordingly. Note that A1 would have been gone with his second "T" anyway. |
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Note that by rule you can't call a non-contact foul a personal foul during a live ball. All non-contact unsporting fouls during live balls are technical fouls of some kind---regular, intentional or flagrant. Btw, good job of taking care of bidness. You caught the raised fist before it escalated into something more and you didn't let the coach/player crap on you for making the right call also. Check out rule 4-19-1 and 4-19-5(b) |
Grandma Backs me up
The grandmother approached me and stated that the boy you gave a tech on is my grandson, so I thought ok here it comes, but she said,"Dont worry ref he will be getting it at home too, if his momma and daddy don't punish him, I will."
Thank you all for the feedback. |
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it would be a HTBT moment for me. Depends how the fist was raised, what angle it's at, how close it is to the opponent, etc. |
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Yes, it could result in an opponent retaliating but it DIDN'T result in an opponent retaliating. You call what happened, not what might happen. If the closed fist caused a retaliation, go ahead and call both players for fighting. If there's no retaliation, go by Article 1. And Article 1 says that there has to be an attempt to strike made. And don't "think". That'll get you into trouble every time. Be sure. |
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