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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 01:11pm
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I called my first T for faking taking a charge. I wouldn't have if there'd been any contact, but the shooter rotated her body as she flew past, and there was no contact at all.

Defender had taken a charge earlier, and was definitely ready to get the next one. She tried a couple times, but couldn't sucker the opponent in. No prob here. But trying to fake me out was just a giant step over the line.

The poor girl probably didn't know the rule, and started crying, bless her heart. But she owns it now!
Did you warn this player first or tell the coach "if she does it again she will get whacked?" If you didn't I wouldn't have whacked her...this is a call of last resort.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 01:15pm
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Did you warn this player first or tell the coach "if she does it again she will get whacked?" If you didn't I wouldn't have whacked her...this is a call of last resort.
No, didn't warn, and that's the substance of my few second thoughts. If there'd been any contact, I think I'd warned after I called the block. But, it was such a clean play by the shooter, and the basket didn't go, and the defender was so clearly faking, I just couldn't see letting it go. Actually, when I should have warned was the one before where the contact was minimal, and she came up protesting the no-call. THAT's the warning I regret holding back.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 02:20pm
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No, didn't warn, and that's the substance of my few second thoughts. If there'd been any contact, I think I'd warned after I called the block. But, it was such a clean play by the shooter, and the basket didn't go, and the defender was so clearly faking, I just couldn't see letting it go. Actually, when I should have warned was the one before where the contact was minimal, and she came up protesting the no-call. THAT's the warning I regret holding back.
I agree...I would just go up to the coach and let them know what is going on and explain to them it might be a technical next time. Usually does the trick.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 02:34pm
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I agree...I would just go up to the coach and let them know what is going on and explain to them it might be a technical next time. Usually does the trick.
I agree completely, but I have no problem with someone going directly to a T when the action endangers other players (flopping in the lane, for example.)
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 03:14pm
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warning is the way to go here. This is jv ball correct? These kids have trouble remembering thier own names when they play much less some obscure rule. I'm sure you HTBT but this sounds a little over the top for me. If you had warned her a time or two before that would be different.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 03:18pm
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warning is the way to go here. This is jv ball correct? These kids have trouble remembering thier own names when they play much less some obscure rule. I'm sure you HTBT but this sounds a little over the top for me. If you had warned her a time or two before that would be different.

I'm all for warning on this, but never twice.
If you warn once, they usually stop. If they don't, and you warn again, they'll do it a third time; guaranteed.

And again, I'll never fault an official for taking care of business just because they skipped a warning that isn't required by rule.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 03:43pm
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warning is the way to go here...
Where does the rule book say anything about issuing a warning? The rule, as correctly applied by Juulie, is put there for a reason. If she felt the situation necessitated a T, then my bet is that it was warranted.

I can't agree with those here that support a warning, or HTBT... I don't know Juulie or her experience level but if she's working HS ball in her state, that tells me she's qualified to make the call. She knows the rule. Applied the rule. Why all the second guessing???
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2010, 03:47pm
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Where does the rule book say anything about issuing a warning? The rule, as correctly applied by Juulie, is put there for a reason. If she felt the situation necessitated a T, then my bet is that it was warranted.

I can't agree with those here that support a warning, or HTBT... I don't know Juulie or her experience level but if she's working HS ball in her state, that tells me she's qualified to make the call. She knows the rule. Applied the rule. Why all the second guessing???
If someone came on here and said, "Early in the first quarter, the head coach was a foot out of the coaching box coaching his player. I immediately issued a technical foul," would there be second guessing?
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