More T or no T
 

What do you guys think? Did he smack it so hard that it could not be ignored? I guess they could have gotten him for hanging on the rim too, although not sure if I agree that he did. Anyone ever pass on this same play?

YouTube - Did Gomez Deserve Technical Foul?

His actions cannot be ignored. The slapping of the board had nothing to do with basketball.

No brainer T here.

The cb play says that a player who strikes it "so forcefully that it cannot be ignored" should be tech'd, doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not.

The rule says if it's part of a blocked shot attempt, it should be ignored regardless of how hard it is.

Agree, but how is that relevant in this play?

Can't get YouTube here at work...what did Gomez do? Dunk the basketball then smack the backboard? Did he lightly tap it or was it a full-on palm to backboard slap?

It was a smack, but not overly hard IMO and he didn't scream or anything, just turned and ran down the floor. I've seen this passed on probably hundreds of times (including myself), although I did call one where there was a primal scream accompanying the smack and it was quite a bit more than a "tap".

Agree with your description. He slapped it with his palm, but not forcefully, no accompanying display, etc.

By rule, the T could be supported. By practice, I'm surprised this one was called. From what I see on the video I'd pass.

Of course, everything happens within a context and maybe there was something else that happened prior to this to make the officials more "touchy" on this one.

The tap was so light I wouldn't have called it, if we would have yelled at the same time, T!

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...atcha-got.html

Edit: I meant to put this on another thread.

I remember an NCAA Tournament game where Greg Oden slapped the backboard with two hands after a dunk and screamed. No call.

It was more of a general statement in response to your statement that "doesn't say anything about whether it has to do with basketball or not."

I think the group is confusing two different situations....slapping the backboard while attempting to block a shot is one thing (and legal); slapping the backboard after a dunk is an entirely different situation (and an automatic T)....

good call by the official in this game...this is a T every time it happens....

I'm not confusing jack. I was just stating that whether it has to do with basketball is relevant.

Automatic? OK. <shrug>

The only reason he did this is to draw attention to himself.

It has nothing to do with the game, and everyting to do about himself, which can quickly turn into retaliation and taunting.

Nip it in the bud immediately.

How hard does he have to smack it? If he taps it is it ok? Still having nothing to do with basketball?

Ask yourself the question...

Why did the player purposely slap the backboard?

Understood. I think you realize that my comment was more in reference to asdf's characterization of this play, but you are right more generally speaking it does matter.

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Habit, routine, to show off who knows? Do you penalize when a player crouches down and slaps the floor when he gets in a defensive stance? Why do you think they do that? The rule gives you authority to penalize the backboard slap, but not just because you thought it was a non-basketball play - if you deem that he did it for unsportsmanlike purposes then it must be so hard that it cannot be ignored or to vent frustration (cb 10.3.4)

There is no reason for a player to purposely contact the backboard.

None, zero, nada, zilch......

It's only done to draw attention to himself. You leave that go, and his opponent now is gonna one-up him.....then he's gonna one-up him.....

When you gonna whack someone? Where do you tell the coach, who has seen it now twice unpenalized, the threshold is for purposefully slapping the board to hard or too loud?

Whack it when it first happens. If it happens again, you have set the threshhold....

Finally saw video. Easy 'T'.

If he hung on to the rim long enough to slap the backboard, he deserved it. Good call, but I did have to watch it twice!

agreed
 

T - No question. What ever happened to calling the T for pulling the rim down? Every dunk I see now, regardless if there is even another player in the front court, the dunker pulls the rim down. I quit calling T's after I was written up for "overofficiating" it. In my oppinion he could have been T'd up for hanging - the slap was automatic.

Pulling the rim down does not warrant a technical foul. The rim collapsed becasue it's designed to do just that.

Now, hanging on it or performing a "pull up", that's different.