FT Violation?
 

A1 is shooting a FT. She receives the ball from the official. Her pre-shot process includes taking her front foot and placing it on the FT line and then sliding it back behind the FT line. She then takes a dribble and shoots.

I did not call a violation since her foot was behind the FT line when she actually shot the ball. As I look through the rule book all I see is 9-1-1 that says "the try shall be attempted from within the FT semicircle and behind the FT line."

So, is placing the foot on the line and then putting it behind the line (after the ball is live) prior to shooting the FT a violation?

Yep, violation per 9-1-3e.
"After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower:..."
"The free thrower shall not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the
edge of the free-throw line which is farther from the basket or the free throw
semicircle line."

Technically, yes.

Career-development wise, no.

So in the interest of advancing your officiating career, do you also allow the thrower to put a toe just over the boundary line after you hand him the ball for a throw-in as long as he backs up before making the pass? :eek:

Thanks. I read that initially but for some reason didn't interpret it correctly.

Now I know.

And how many times have you called a violation when a free-thrower initially put their toe on the line then pulled it back as part of their pre-shot routine?

And don't tell me you've never seen a thrower do it.

Whisper in her ear that it might be a good idea to change her pre-shot process...before she hears a whistle blowing in her ear.

As usual, one warning per customer.

I really like oranges. I don't like apples.

Nope, but I will allow a FT shooter to put a toe on the line once.

But that's just me......

I had this situation:

Two shots for A1. Before first shot AI is standing outside of the circle as I am ready to administer. I say "shooter, stay in the circle" and he more or less ignores me and takes the bounce pass with both feet on the line. I look at partner who gives me a kind of "so what" look back.

After first shot, A1 backs out of circle again and I tell him once again, "shooter, stay in the circle". He once again ignores me, so I bounce the ball to him and he gets the ball with both feet outside the circle. I blow the whistle and considered giving him the "T', but instead called the violation.

A1's coach understood fully what happened and every A player the rest of the night was in the circle and ready to get the ball. BTW, the B coach never asked what the call was.

Would you have given the "T"; I second guessed myself and my partner thought the violation call was sufficient.

I could have (could of/coulda) typed this earlier but I was more interested in riling up Nevada.


I prefer Apples. :D

No, the penalty is a violation.

The coach will do his job...and did.

Well, that certainly doesn't make you a bad person.:D

Ask yourself this instead, what would the 'T' have been for?

I do not bounce until the shooter is in the circle. Tell him to get in the circle and if he refuses, then make clear that not complying could cause a technical foul.

by rule, 10-3 Art 5, section c. I didn't want to over officiate, but the shooter ignoring my direction was annoying.

Monosyllabic? Or Multi...?
 

Visiting team in or-ange yesterday. Whereas we ordinarily eschew two-syllable colors, for some reason I couldn't bring myself to call them the usual "Red". And though or-ange can be pronounced as two syllables, I settled on vocalizing it as one syllable, and called them "Orange" the rest of the night.
First time experience ever for me with that color. And I now feel good about it. I think I'll call it "orange" from now on, monosyllabic.
Wow, what a growing experience for me, eh?
Who says a leopard can't change his stripes?!

Good One!
 

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
I could have (could of/coulda) typed this earlier but I was more interested in riling up Nevada.

I'm liking you more all the time!! :D

I do not call orange "red" nor will I probably ever. That said, I do call purple blue. Can't exactly explain my double standard, but it's probably because orange can be said (sort of) as a single syllable word.

The JV guys were calling the maroon team "maroon" last night. Cute. They were red in the varsity game.

"Awnge" is one syllable; "oar-ange" is two.

Orange for me. I did have to use purple one time when I subbed with a guy who refuses to call a purple team blue. He graduated from a school that had purple as a school color and refuses to call any purple team blue. It wasn't all that big of a deal.

LOL....I'm a one syllable guy, as well. I ran into a partner like this a month ago or so. I think he was a K Stater. Sort of annoying, to be honest. But, we went purrrrple anyway. I'm such a nice guy.

I'd still say "blue", probably, just out of habit.

My high school team was (and still is) the Indians. I don't do our "war chant" when calling a foul.

Last Saturday I had purple (visitors) and pink (home). The first official to say "blue" had to buy that day. We went the whole first half without a buyer. One of my partners lost on an oob call early in the second half.

How about yellow -> gold, or silver -> gray? And I'm sure you call ecru white. ;)

I understand your squeamishness about calling orange red. I had an orange team the other night and felt funny calling them red. And it's puzzling that we have no problem with other 2-syllable colors. :confused:

"Pink" is the worst. I call them "red". No exceptions.

I did go to Tennessee, but I don't think that's it.

Expires March 1, 2010 ...
 

Cannot be combined with any other offer.

He Did This All The Time ...
 

Was A1 Larry Bird?

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Actually, Nevada has had such a great week that not much could rile him at this point. ;)

I did a JV game earlier with a "seasoned" official who kept saying "blue" for the team in black jerseys. I wasn't quite sure what to say about that, so I said nothing.

Wreck Leagues.....
 

1) Reusable White/Blue pennies (sp). Easy stuff. Love it.

2) Different colored shirts for each team. Kids can keep them at the end of the yr. One team's is dark purple (yes, we call it blue) with black numbers. Horrible. You can't see their numbers unless you're within a few feet of them - HATE it! Told the league DON'T DO THIS AGAIN. ARGH!

3) Pennies with numbers only on one side - hate it! "Turn around please."

Hey Ref, What's Your Name, We Want to Put It On A List ???
 

Nothing like asking a girl to turn around while you're staring at her chest to endear you to parents?

Same situation---the orange team had blue numbers, so we ended up calling them blue, and no one cared.....worked out nicely....