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howie719 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:32pm

Point of Interruption
 
I find I question if I apply the two of these correctly sometimes. Is there a simple way to keep POI and the AP straight. I understand that sometime the AP is the POI in cases where no team control exists.

Sit: A1 on fast break. B1 comes from behind and bats ball out of bounds. Coach goes nuts and has been, So I wack him prior to giving A ball for a throw in on the endline. Shoot two at other end and give A1 there throw in on endline. Did I apply the rule correctly? Is there a live ball dead ball way of looking at POI in general.

just another ref Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:36pm

If we're talking NFHS, this is not a POI situation.

Adam Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:36pm

Were you officiating with NCAA rules or High school rules? If high school, a single T is never POI. It's always enforced with a throwin for the non-offending team.

To answer your question: POI is always, essentially, whatever you were doing or about to do. In the case of an OOB violation followed by a double foul, you'll simply administer the throwin you would have done without the double foul. Or free throw. Or, if there was team control, go to that.

There aren't many situations where POI will be the arrow.

howie719 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 656770)
If we're talking NFHS, this is not a POI situation.


Yes NF. So your saying it should have been two shots and the ball at half court for B? Would it have changed things if I wack him after A1 has ball on the endline for the throw in.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by howie719 (Post 656764)
Sit: A1 on fast break. B1 comes from behind and bats ball out of bounds. Coach goes nuts and has been, So I wack him prior to giving A ball for a throw in on the endline. Shoot two at other end and give A1 there throw in on endline. Did I apply the rule correctly?

Under FED, you applied the rule INcorrectly. Under FED, there's no POI for false double fouls -- apply the penalties in the order the fouls were committed.

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Is there a live ball dead ball way of looking at POI in general.
There's no "live ball / dead ball" way, but POI is used only on double fouls, simultaneous fouls, CEs and IWs (I think there might be one more, but I don't think it ever really happens?).

We've "always" used it on IWs and CEs, so those aren't really an issue. And, there's rarely a simultaneous foul. So, that leaves only double fouls. That's not hard to remember.

howie719 Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:49pm

Got it. Anytime there is a single technical foul as in my situation. Two shots and the ball at half court for the non affending team.

Adam Fri Jan 29, 2010 02:51pm

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Originally Posted by howie719 (Post 656774)
Yes NF. So your saying it should have been two shots and the ball at half court for B? Would it have changed things if I wack him after A1 has ball on the endline for the throw in.

No, it doesn't change it. A single tech is always penalized by giving the non-offending team the ball at the division line opposite the table after their free throws are attempted; unless it's at the end of a quarter or followed by another technical foul against the other team (false double foul, in which they are penalized in order.)

mbyron Fri Jan 29, 2010 04:12pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 656771)
POI is always, essentially, whatever you were doing or about to do.

So you're saying that it's always, essentially, the point of interruption? :p


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