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tomegun Mon Jan 25, 2010 03:57pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 655276)
Do the table crews get evaluated then if they are assigned?
I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?

Adam Mon Jan 25, 2010 03:58pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 655298)
I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
Aside from knowing how much time to put on the clock for an overtime period?

Raymond Mon Jan 25, 2010 04:07pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 655298)
I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
I've done both the book and the clock. I know when I did it I was more diligent than others. There are definitely things can differentiate the good, the bad, and the mediorce.

Don't tell me you have never noticed good table crews and bad table crews.

chseagle Mon Jan 25, 2010 04:37pm
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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 655298)
I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
As I see it, it depends on the experience & age of the table crew.

Like I've mentioned before, unfortunately, for the Sub-V games the scorebook only wants to do running score, player points, fouls, & timeouts. Although they are also supposed to keep track of the AP, they do not. Then again those doing Sub-V games, are still students, not adults, & they don't take their duties/responsibilities seriously. Basically, if I wasn't doing scoreboard/timer the table would be in a bigger mess for those games.

Bad Zebra Mon Jan 25, 2010 04:55pm
I swear the heat affects our brains...
 
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Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 654939)
... that his Varsity game had been two overtimes and that both were 5 minutes. I could not believe a varsity official would allow this to happen, but it did.
We had almost this exact scenario occur at A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP game two or three years ago. Single overtime, table put 5:00 on the clock, officials tipped off and not a single person noticed including Administrators, Directors, Assoc. Directors and every other possible honcho from the Florida High School Athletic Assn.

Someone from the next crew scheduled to work noticed and pointed it out to the officials working the game with about 2:30 remaining. They continued and it played out with a 5:00 overtime. Needless to say, that was the last state tournament game for that crew. Major embarassment for the state officials as well.

tomegun Mon Jan 25, 2010 05:08pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 655304)
I've done both the book and the clock. I know when I did it I was more diligent than others. There are definitely things can differentiate the good, the bad, and the mediorce.

Don't tell me you have never noticed good table crews and bad table crews.
Dude, I worked in the DC area; we had table crews that were a step above me keeping track of everything while officiating. I guess I was trying to say it is different than being on the court.

You want to come out here and work the table? :D

chseagle Mon Jan 25, 2010 05:17pm
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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 655336)
We had almost this exact scenario occur at A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP game two or three years ago. Single overtime, table put 5:00 on the clock, officials tipped off and not a single person noticed including Administrators, Directors, Assoc. Directors and every other possible honcho from the Florida High School Athletic Assn.

Someone from the next crew scheduled to work noticed and pointed it out to the officials working the game with about 2:30 remaining. They continued and it played out with a 5:00 overtime. Needless to say, that was the last state tournament game for that crew. Major embarassment for the state officials as well.
Was the table crew thinking NCAA Overtime rules??

tomegun Mon Jan 25, 2010 05:22pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 655350)
Was the table crew thinking NCAA Overtime rules??
I don't know, but that wouldn't be an excuse.

Bad Zebra Mon Jan 25, 2010 05:24pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 655350)
Was the table crew thinking NCAA Overtime rules??
No telling what they were thinking but they were from the State office. Bottom line, the officials on the floor were responsible.

Adam Mon Jan 25, 2010 05:49pm
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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 655355)
No telling what they were thinking but they were from the State office. Bottom line, the officials on the floor were responsible.
That's what they get for assuming state officials would know what they were doing.


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