How many "T's" this year?

[TimTaylor]

3 so far - all on players with bad attitudes and a mouth to match.

Came close with a couple of coaches, but so far they've heeded the warnings and not crossed the line.

Like Rich said, no big deal, when they happen, they happen. There's nothing special about a T - it's just another kind of foul.......

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

3 so far - all on players with bad attitudes and a mouth to match.

Came close with a couple of coaches, but so far they've heeded the warnings and not crossed the line.

Like Rich said, no big deal, when they happen, they happen. There's nothing special about a T - it's just another kind of foul.......

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

External consequences are irrelevant to us. From the official's point of view calling a T is just like calling any other foul. If it's there, you call it, but we don't go looking for them.

And it's absurd for an official to set a goal regarding how few T's he will call during a season. Now goals to be a better communicator with coaches, to better sense when trouble is brewing and head it off, those are worthy goals.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Nothing special about a "T"?


When I call a "T" I have to write a report and send it into the state ( West Virginia ) If a coach gets 2 he has to give up 25% of his season's pay. He also sits for 2 games after the game he is ejected from.


A "T" is not just another foul. JMO. You get 5 fouls, but if the first 2 are "T's" you don't get the last 3. If you get 2 "T's" in one game you get to sit for 2 more games, player or coach.

"T's" are special. I have several referees in my association that have never given one. They consider themselves to be patient and understanding.....

Technicals in my opinion are a part of the game. Do you have to write up a hold, block, or push?

Our association is specific that for routine technical fouls there doesn't need to be a report- only if something is out of the ordinary.

Some one in another thread made reference to an NBA official saying offensive fouls being just like a technical fouls and need to be called more often.

If you ask me, more emphasis should be placed on intentional fouls than technical fouls.

[BillyMac]

I think that this post jinxed me. I have a very long fuse, and don't give a lot of technical fouls, but this is a record year for me.

Boys varsity game yesterday. No problems throughout game. Ball on the floor. A few players dive for the loose ball. A few hands hold onto the ball. My partner and I come both blow our whistles long and hard for a held ball and we both step toward the "scrum". Players get up and A1, who was in on the held ball, takes two hands, puts them on B1's chest, he was also in on the held ball, and pushes him back a few feet. No retaliation from B1. Technical foul. Team A coach sits A1 down for several minutes to cool off. On my way to the table I considered a flagrant foul for almost starting a fight, but since no words were exchanged, and since there was no retaliation, and since A1 didn't give me a hard time after the foul was charged, I decided to just go with a regular technical foul.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

..... B1, who was in on the held ball, takes two hands, puts them on B1's chest, he was also in on the held ball, and pushes him back a few feet. No retaliation from B1.

Why the T? Seems like he worked it out on his own.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Why the T?

Thanks. Fixed it.

[APG]

2 technical fouls to head coaches:

1st: 7th grade girls' coach yells at the top of her lungs to call a foul after her player drives into 4 players with their hands straight up

2nd: 8th grade boys' coach; working with a first year official and there's a play were a whistle was probably warranted where the offense loses the ball. Defense gets the ball and scores. On the way back down the court coach starts yelling about the play and yelling about a previous foul we had called on his player. I give coach a reminder that we can't have him yelling, but before I can finish my reminder coach says, "Go ahead, T me up!" I kindly obliged.

4 technical fouls to players:

1st: BJV-Unsporting technical foul. Cursing at an official after a no call
2nd: BJV-Unsporting technical foul. Player slammed the matting behind the basket after I called a foul on him
3rd: B9-Intentional technical foul; two players got tangled up after a player. Step in to tell players to ease up and let go. One player followed directions, the other decided he needed to give a good push before he was done
4th: BV-Intentional technical foul. Game is not close, rebounding action and two players playing rough down low. I come up with a double foul. Not a second later, player frustrated with the contact gives a good shove with his forearm.

Flagrant:

GV-Though not a technical foul, had a flagrant foul when a girl decided to rear back and throw an elbow that connected.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I think that this post jinxed me.

I've "awarded" three well deserved T's in the last week......unlike me, but hey, they earned em and who am I to disappoint?