Not using it any more.

[umpref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I fail to see where anyone in this thread has said this. With whom are you arguing, chief?
Um, it's not just your area, it's in the rule book. Tha'ts the difference:Some of us do find it a stretch. However, all of us have acknowledged that if that's how it's done in your area, so be it. Again, with whom are you arguing here?
Rest assured, if I T a coach his sins will be documented. But I'm not concerned about whether he argues it to the state or my assigner. I'll get the backing I need.

You're kidding, right?
Most? Really? Have you done a scientific poll to determine this? I've been in three different metro organizations, none of which promoted use of the stop sign.

So we can't question the stop sign (not an NFHS signal), but you can question an official NFHS tool in baseball?

Wow.



I didn't write it off, I've merely expressed my opinion as to why I don't use it anymore. That's all I've seen anyone do in this thread.

What is your point?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by umpref

What is your point?

You're right, that's a much more concise way to word my post.

[umpref]

I made mine with clarity. Are you just taking jabs at me with yours? You seem to have another agenda.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by umpref

I made mine with clarity. Are you just taking jabs at me with yours? You seem to have another agenda.

You responded to my post with this statement:

The stop sign IS dismissive, and that is the point!

By rule, the coach does not have a right to display dissent to officials calls. Coaches also ARE NOT tasked with administering the game and the rules! He is there to COACH his players. I fail to understand where coaching his players include the right to yell at officials.

I'll ask it clearly, where did I or anyone imply any of these things that you so vehemently disagree with?

Now, I will ask, where does it say the coach doesn't have the right to display dissent?

You did a great job of burning down some strawmen, but I never really got your point. No one has said the alternative to the stop sign is allowing rampant unsporting behavior. My experience has been the opposite, in that unsporting behavior has always followed when I've used it. Is it possible I'm using it incorrectly? Sure, but I'm not the only one with this opinion.

Perhaps you can share with my what my agenda appears to be, as I'm not aware of it.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No one has said the alternative to the stop sign is allowing rampant unsporting behavior.

BS.

"In my opinion this procedure screws the team which does not receive such a warning during the game. If the opponent was behaving in an unsporting manner, then it should be penalized as called for in the rules."

That's exactly what NevadaRef said.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

BS.

"In my opinion this procedure screws the team which does not receive such a warning during the game. If the opponent was behaving in an unsporting manner, then it should be penalized as called for in the rules."

That's exactly what NevadaRef said.

Sorry, I tend to forget his posts shortly after reading them; this was no exception. Looks like I need to be more careful when making categorical statements about threads in which Nevada has participated.

[BktBallRef]

Yes you should, as you were almost sounding like one of his disciples!