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rockyroad Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:25am
So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?

Rich Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:34am
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 650515)
So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.

grunewar Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:40am
Interesting
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 650519)
I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.
Is that like suspending a baseball pitcher for three games even though he pitches every fourth day? :(

Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:45am
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 650492)
Drop it. Both of you.
Agree. It's childish and I deleted/amended my posts.

JRutledge Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 650457)
When some new poster asks questions, even pretty basic questions, and he responds, more often than not, met with a condescending, holier than thou attitude, do you really think that is going to foster dialog, learning, camaraderie and cooperation? Do you think that they'll stick around and listen? Or go away? I'd bet he's run more people off with his approach than anything else here. As good as this site is and as useful as it can be, it will not help anyone who is ridiculed and run off.

He also can't stick to discussing the point. When someone doesn't bow to his opinion, he resorts to calling names or saying the others stupid. Such behaviors are typical of someone who can't compose a decent argument and can only rely on such tactics to divert the discussion from the merits.
Honestly Camron I was being funny and joking. I did not expect a real response from you. Also if people cannot handle someone with a moniker coming at them, then they really do not need to be officiating in the first place if that is a major issue from them. For one none of us really know the people we are dealing with and we will never meet them. And folks like JR never bother me because he is like the people I am used to dealing with. He is direct and you can take it or leave it. If you do not like what he has to say, do not pay attention. I do the very same things when I see individuals at camp. I am going to tell you what I think, because at the camp is going to be much nicer and more helpful than when you have a coach in your ear. And the last time I checked, none of us are perfect. That includes me and you and the way we have responded from time to time here. ;)

Peace

JRutledge Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:33am
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 650519)
I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.
There is a coach that tried that in my state and he was suspended further. And eventually the actions like that (along with a few others) the coach lost his job.

Peace

constable Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:28pm
Since everyone here is harping on signals I'm surprised no one has brought up the use of the baseball style ejection signal on the 2nd T.

smginnis Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:01pm
Estatic, yes! Idiot, wouldn't go that far.
 
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 650515)
So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.

JRutledge Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:04pm
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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 650637)
I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. IT wasn't very smart of him to get so far out and in the officials face. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.
We do not care about a fan's perspective. The coach is an idiot, just because you as a fan do not think so does not mean others would not have a different opinion. Just saying.

Peace

smginnis Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:30pm
It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

Rich Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:40pm
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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 650637)
I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.
If he would've gotten ejected during his post-technical tirade (like, IMO, he should've) would you still be as ecstatic?

rockyroad Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:45pm
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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 650662)
It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
You honestly think there were positive outcomes associated with the behavior shown in that video??? Wow...just, wow.

Everyone has seen/heard/been involved with coaches and teams who think they can get everyone "fired up" by getting a T. Have never bought that, and probably never will. Generally when a T is given to a coach for this type of behavior, the whining and complaining from players increases. If this coach can't find a better way to "fire up" his kids than making an a$$ out of himself and shoving kids around, then yes - an idiot he will be.

Welpe Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:52pm
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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 650662)
But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.

JRutledge Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:55pm
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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 650662)
It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
Honestly I do not know what you are, I did not ask. But based on what you are saying and want us to buy, is that this guy is a good guy but loses control when things do not go his way. If this was not a sporting event would his behavior ever be seen as acceptable? Of course not. If he did this in the classroom he would probably have been fired and the school would have been sued. But for some reason we excuse any behavior during a sporting event even if that sporting event is an extension of the educational process. And I do not care what kind of person he is off the court. All I know is what he saw. I think if he had murdered someone in a 30 second video we would not be talking about what a good person he was now. So why do we act like what he showed us was acceptable in this case? He is supposed to be the leader of young men, not acting like a child that lost his toy.

Peace

Adam Tue Jan 12, 2010 01:56pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 650675)
I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.
Reminds me of the Eustachy melt down against Michigan State a few years ago.


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