How About This One
 

Got a call from a buddy to tell me about this play from his daughter's JV game Friday night...

Opening jump (jumpers facing right direction). Tip to Visiting player who takes off toward Home basket (no backcourt violation or anything). V pulls up and shoots 3 pointer - gets hit in arm - ref blows whistle - ball goes in the Home team basket.

Refs huddle up (3 person) and discuss it for a minute or so and then do this (get ready, cause it's pretty good):

1) Count the basket and give Home 3 points. :confused:

2)Put V shooter on the line to shoot 1 free throw - AT HOME TEAM'S BASKET!!! :eek:

3)V purposefully misses free throw and slams ball off backboard, and refs call a free throw violation and give Home the ball under their own basket!::mad:

Silly monkeys.

Oh my oh my.... woooooo, rocky, I wish you would have saved this for tomorrow morning. That's better than a cup of coffee.

That might just be the silliest administration of free throws I've ever heard. I could see how some might erroneously count the basket and from that I could maybe see them awarded free throws. But to make them shoot the free throws at the WRONG basket? Did they expect the visitors to spot the home team another point? :confused:

Wow! You're right, that is good.

Just think what they might have come up with if they hadn't gotten together first. :D

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

Maybe.

mbyron,

So, what you're saying is, other than those few errors, the crew got it right? Correct? ;)

Exactly! :D

What foul? What was the disadvantage from the contact?

I'm going from the point where the foul was called, not challenging the call itself.

Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Because they're a dexter-head?

Instinct?

Just proves the statement:

Some players try to block everything.

And don't forget that even if the ball goes in, it's only two points. No 3 pointers in the wrong basket.

I gotta tell you that I thought my buddy was making it all up to pull my leg - he's a D-I official - but he was completely serious.

I chose not to add that to the current thread, since the foul prevented the basket from counting. I was focused on what the officials should have done in their situation.

Were they the only two players who headed the wrong way?

Well that makes sense...although nothing else they did makes any!! :)

Good question...I'll ask him the next time we talk.

It's like the last scene in White Man Can't Jump where Wesley tells Woody he isn't shooting at Zaire, he is shooting at Zimbabwe! What would they have done had the shooter turned around and chucked the free throw into the other hoop?

Would there be an alternative administration of this play?

4-5-4 "If by mistake the officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location"

Could you claim that since the "shot" was defended/fouled that both teams were confused on their directions? Thus counting the basket as a 3 and going to the correct basket to administer ft?

Yes. That's why snaqwells asked if they were the only two players going the wrong way.

And it seems they were...according to my sources, the other V players were yelling at her to stop and not shoot.

Ok. My take: Common foul, no basket, ball OOB to the "shooter's" team at the spot nearest the foul.

BTW, #2 and #3 make no sense what-so-ever. Ugh! Sounds like these guys got all confused and couldn't think straight for a minute or two.

I agree 100% with Snaqwells.:D

"Excuse me, Mr. Ref. But, now that I know this is the wrong basket, do I have to try to make it anyway, or...............what??"

Did the refs actually know the player was shooting at the wrong basket? It's been said throughout several posts, but I'm going to say it as an agreement and to put it all in one post instead of throughout several posts:

Common foul. Only two points are awarded, scorer should make note of player shooting in wrong basket (this is a bad moment, I used to scorekeep for biddy and high school years ago). Ball is taken out of bounds nearest to the spot of the foul and given to the team that just got fouled. Make sure teams are going in the correct direction this time.

"Yes, you have to. It's in the rulebook that every FT should be attempted to be made"

(yes, I know it isn't actually in the rulebook)

Nope. No points are scored. The ball becomes dead when a foul is called, with certain exceptions that do not apply here since it is not a try when a player shoots at the wrong basket.