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jdmara Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 649681)
Actually I did read, I was trying to put in some humor by having the LMAO & emoticon at the end.

Failed

tjones1 Sun Jan 10, 2010 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 649681)
Actually I did read, I was trying to put in some humor by having the LMAO & emoticon at the end.

Although I have heard officials say "Full timeout called by white coach", instead of "Full timeout requested by white coach granted".

Failed... I said, when coaches are able to call time-out, I'm no longer going to referee....

Anyways, I don't say that much...

I say, for example: Time-out White, Coach (or whoever requested it), 30-second (or 60) [with signal], Spin it (while pointing at the table to start timing).

BillyMac Sun Jan 10, 2010 04:55pm

Too Much Verbiage ...
 
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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 649753)
Anyways, I don't say that much.

Agree. We're not supposed to. I'm on our local training committee and we tell our cadets to keep their verbiage to a minimum when reporting to the table.

It's not, "I've got a foul on white thirty-two for a hold. Blue ball out of bounds on the side". Instead it should be, ""White. Thirty-two. Hold. Possession blue."

As tjones1 posted, it's not, ""Full timeout requested by white coach granted." Instead it should be, "White Time. Coach. Thirty. Start the clock."

jkumpire Sun Jan 10, 2010 05:02pm

More to the point, I like the FIBA rules better for timeouts. It gets rid of all these problems.

Mark Dexter Sun Jan 10, 2010 08:32pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 649690)
You'll get yourself in deeper doo-doo if you're watching the sidelines while a dribbler is getting the snot kicked outa him.

You working mafia league games nowadays, Jurassic? :p

Welpe Sun Jan 10, 2010 08:44pm

Mark Dexter...now there's a name I haven't see on here in a while.

chseagle Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:32pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 649753)
Failed... I said, when coaches are able to call time-out, I'm no longer going to referee....

Anyways, I don't say that much...

I say, for example: Time-out White, Coach (or whoever requested it), 30-second (or 60) [with signal], Spin it (while pointing at the table to start timing).

The previous comments of what I've heard said has been few & far between.

The majority of what I've heard, is like what you posted.

Some of the times, I've heard it this way: "Full (or 30-sec.) Timeout (with appropriate signal)White coach. start the clock (with signal)"

Rich Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:40pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 649790)
Agree. We're not supposed to. I'm on our local training committee and we tell our cadets to keep their verbiage to a minimum when reporting to the table.

It's not, "I've got a foul on white thirty-two for a hold. Blue ball out of bounds on the side". Instead it should be, ""White. Thirty-two. Hold. Possession blue."

As tjones1 posted, it's not, ""Full timeout requested by white coach granted." Instead it should be, "White Time. Coach. Thirty. Start the clock."

White time. Thirty. Coach. Go.

Adam Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 649899)
White time. Thirty. Coach. Go.

Timeout. White, coach. Go.

Rich Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 649922)
Timeout. White, coach. Go.

This reminds me of the quest for the 10-second captain meeting. :D

BillyMac Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:14am

Who Remembers "Name That Tune" ???
 
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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 649753)
Time-out White, Coach, 30-second, Spin it.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 649790)
"White Time. Coach. Thirty. Start the clock."

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 649896)
"Full Timeout White coach. start the clock"

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 649899)
White time. Thirty. Coach. Go.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 649922)
Timeout. White, coach. Go.

I can call that timeout in three words.

chseagle Mon Jan 11, 2010 05:21am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 649947)
I can call that timeout in three words.

Timeout (signal full or 30-sec.), white (signal who requested it), start (give start clock signal)??

Or is it "Time (signal full or 30-sec.), white (signal who requested it), start (give start clock signal)??

grunewar Mon Jan 11, 2010 07:24am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 649790)
It's not, "I've got a foul on white thirty-two for a hold. Blue ball out of bounds on the side". Instead it should be, ""White. Thirty-two. Hold. Possession blue."

My first ever training session in my association.....Practicing calling fouls.

Me, "I've got, blue, 5, hold........"

Trainer - :eek: "I've got? I've got? You've got nothing!" Lesson learned, day one!

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 649790)
As tjones1 posted, it's not, ""Full timeout requested by white coach granted." Instead it should be, "White Time. Coach. Thirty. Start the clock."

I use - "30 second timeout. Blue, coach. Start the clock." Same difference. :rolleyes:

PS - And yes, Billy, I remember Name That Tune!

Red_Killian Mon Jan 11, 2010 07:19pm

We just looked this up in the Official's Manual about 2 weeks ago. The correct TO reporting procedure is:
  1. give the appropriate signal for the type of TO (30 or 60 second)
  2. verbally indicate team color
  3. verbally and visually give the player number or head coach
  4. verbally and visually direct the timer to begin the TO period
I used to do 2, 3, 1, 4 but have now been retrained and am following the manual.

Mark Dexter Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:20pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 649995)
Me, "I've got, blue, 5, hold........"

I've actually been told by some evaluators to not even verbalize what the foul is. If you go with the "by the book" calls, a coach can start arguing "that's not a hold!", etc., etc.


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