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fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:18pm

Atta boy!
 
Had a soph tourney yesterday and my partner who I drove with to our games is strictly a freshman/ Soph ref, and I do Varsity with a few holiday soph games so he values my opinion. We were talking about bench decorum and it seemed he let coaches get away with murder both head AND assistants. I quoted the line from someone here recently about assistant coaches getting out of line "I'll listen to the organ grinder but not the monkey" which he loved.

Second game, very spirited with chatter coming from both coaches. Partner calls a foul with no signal if we are shooting or ball underneath.

Before he reports, he comes to me and for some reason asks was he shooting or on the floor? I said, your call, be firm.

I go to endline to inbound and tweet, I look at partner who calmly T's up assistant who said "you don't need to ask his advice, make your own call"

Atta boy!! Bought him ice cream for ride home.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:22pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 647360)
Had a soph tourney yesterday and my partner who I drove with to our games is strictly a freshman/ Soph ref, and I do Varsity with a few holiday soph games so he values my opinion. We were talking about bench decorum and it seemed he let coaches get away with murder both head AND assistants. I quoted the line from someone here recently about assistant coaches getting out of line "I'll listen to the organ grinder but not the monkey" which he loved.

Second game, very spirited with chatter coming from both coaches. Partner calls a foul with no signal if we are shooting or ball underneath.

Before he reports, he comes to me and for some reason asks was he shooting or on the floor? I said, your call, be firm.

I go to endline to inbound and tweet, I look at partner who calmly T's up assistant who said "you don't need to ask his advice, make your own call"

Atta boy!! Bought him ice cream for ride home.

So he T'd the assistant coach for making a completely true statement about something which he just did? I don't like it at all. :(

just another ref Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:33pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 647575)
So he T'd the assistant coach for making a completely true statement about something which he just did? I don't like it at all. :(

You who would call a T when the mom comes to the aid of the kid with the broken neck thinks this is ok?

10-4-1a

Even if the statement is true, it can still be disrespectful.

fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:35pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 647575)
So he T'd the assistant coach for making a completely true statement about something which he just did? I don't like it at all. :(

Sorry to hear that.

fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:42pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 647579)
You who would call a T when the mom comes to the aid of the kid with the broken neck thinks this is ok?

10-4-1a

Even if the statement is true, it can still be disrespectful.

Just Nevada being Nevada. Yes, it was said in a disrespectful way, not conversational. Furthermore, I doubt assistant could hear actual conversation, but he assumed right.

That said, the point of the thread was he took care of bidness as JR likes to say.

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:46pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 647582)
That said, the point of the thread was he took care of bidness as JR likes to say.

And JR says that he done good. No need at all to take a wiseass comment like that from an assistant coach.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 31, 2009 08:49pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 647582)
Just Nevada being Nevada. Yes, it was said in a disrespectful way, not conversational. Furthermore, I doubt assistant could hear actual conversation, but he assumed right.

That said, the point of the thread was he took care of bidness as JR likes to say.

Your partner did something bizarre and the coach accurately pointed it out to him, and he T'd him for it. I just don't care for a T in that situation, unless the coach uses profanity. Afterall, the coach is right and that doesn't happen often. ;)

fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:04pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 647586)
Your partner did something bizarre and the coach accurately pointed it out to him, and he T'd him for it. I just don't care for a T in that situation, unless the coach uses profanity. Afterall, the coach is right and that doesn't happen often. ;)



Coach is right

Right how? to disrespect an official in front of the crowd and his sophomore team, not to mention it was the assistant coach. I think not.

Your entitled to your opinion, however misguided it is.

Me? I'll say it again, atta boy!

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:10pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 647589)
... not to mention it was the assistant coach. I think not.

According to the US constitution, assistant coaches have no rights. It's in the same amendment that says coaches cannot "call" timeouts.

fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 647584)
And JR says that he done good. No need at all to take a wiseass comment like that from an assistant coach.

Man, you can cut to the chase. That's exactly what it was, a wiseass comment.

mutantducky Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:15pm

that's right. anyone who disagrees hates freedom. (thank you Foxnews:rolleyes:)
(of course if I was coaching I would have said the exact same thing.







HAPPY NYE!!!

BillyMac Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:17pm

Don't know much about history (Sam Cooke) ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 647593)
According to the US constitution, assistant coaches have no rights.

Mark Padgett is correct. It's in the "Bill of No Rights".

fullor30 Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:20pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 647596)
that's right. anyone who disagrees hates freedom. (thank you MSNBC:rolleyes:)
(of course if I was coaching I would have said the exact same thing.







HAPPY NYE!!!


fixed it for ya

mutantducky Thu Dec 31, 2009 09:40pm

I\'ve given up on cable news. Entertainment over news and the more loonier you are the more air time
Thank you PBS and World Focus.
I\'m out. 2010!

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:11pm

If you are undecided about whether it was a wiseass comment, consider if the shoe were on the other foot. Would you consider it out of line if I said to the head coach, "You don\'t need to ask your assistant\'s advice, call your own plays."

Add one more vote to the Atta Boy! column.


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