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bob jenkins Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by Bellbuoy (Post 657200)
Not to hijack the thread, but this happened in our game this week, 4.4 seconds left in the game, Team A leads Team B by 3 points. Team B calls a timeout. At the the conclusion of the timeout Team B sends a player onto the court who has never been in the game and has not reported at the scorer's table. Does s/he become a legal substituion when the ball is inbounded?
Yes.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 657208)
Situation:

Player A1 is fouled and shooting 2 FT's. Four players from A's bench go to the table for substitution. After the first free throw the four players are beckoned onto the floor and replace all other A players except A1. After A1 has the ball at his disposal for the second free throw, A coach sends another bench player to the table for substitution. A1 makes the free throw.

Do you beckon the player at the table onto the court? Do you find out who that player is replacing before beckoning?

Just wondering what sort of protocol should be used in this situation.
Yes. No. The same "protocol" you use on any other sub. The last sub in the sequence presented can replace any player from that team -- not just A1.

SAJ Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 657212)
Yes. No. The same "protocol" you use on any other sub. The last sub in the sequence presented can replace any player from that team -- not just A1.
No time went off the clock, so how can any of the other A players be replaced?

bob jenkins Sun Jan 31, 2010 01:03pm
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Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 657213)
No time went off the clock, so how can any of the other A players be replaced?
Umm.. by having a sub come in for them. There's no requirement for a sub to play a certain period of time.

SAJ Sun Jan 31, 2010 01:07pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 657218)
Umm.. by having a sub come in for them. There's no requirement for a sub to play a certain period of time.
Ok, I'm confusing a rule regarding the same player returning to the game. Thanks

referee99 Sun Jan 31, 2010 01:08pm
Maybe even a little..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellbuoy (Post 657200)
Not to hijack the thread, but this happened in our game this week, 4.4 seconds left in the game, Team A leads Team B by 3 points. Team B calls a timeout. At the the conclusion of the timeout Team B sends a player onto the court who has never been in the game and has not reported at the scorer's table. Does s/he become a legal substituion when the ball is inbounded?
...sooner. If entry is not legal, the substitute becomes a player when the ball becomes live. So, on a throw-in the ball becomes live when...

referee99 Sun Jan 31, 2010 01:11pm
You don't mention ....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 657213)
No time went off the clock, so how can any of the other A players be replaced?
... a replaced player coming back in. If A1 was substituted for, say by A6, then A1 has to sit until the clock starts. That doesn't mean that A7 can't come in for A6, and then A8 for A7, and A9 for A8... all during the same stoppage.

mbyron Sun Jan 31, 2010 03:58pm
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Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 657220)
Ok, I'm confusing a rule regarding the same player returning to the game. Thanks
"Must sit a tick; need not play a tick."

BillyMac Sun Jan 31, 2010 06:44pm
Playing With Five Trumps Sitting A Tick ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 657253)
"Must sit a tick; need not play a tick."
Exceptions for injuries or disqualifications when a team has only five eligible players.

Adam Sun Jan 31, 2010 08:36pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 657298)
Exceptions for injuries or disqualifications when a team has only five eligible players.
Reminds me of the disclaimers on TV commercials.

"May cause blindness."

Loudwhistle Mon Feb 01, 2010 01:14am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 657320)
Reminds me of the disclaimers on TV commercials.

"May cause blindness."
Or erections that last 4 hours!


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