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fullor30 Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:32pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 643984)
That's the other problem I have with this mechanic. It means different things to different people. I've had partners who think the "mechanic" means "I've got the last shot" and some who think it means "clock is under one minute."

I've been in games before where the lead is patting his head and I'm shaking my head "no" at him and he's looking at me like I'm crazy.


I think they were misinformed, patting head or chest means 'mine' that's just common sense. One finger up has always been clock reminder in my world.

Smitty Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 643991)
I think they were misinformed, patting head or chest means 'mine' that's just common sense. One finger up has always been clock reminder in my world.

Your world ain't the only world. The few people I've worked with that pat the head always mean to communicate that the clock is under a minute. Who actually has the last shot is discussed in pregame.

Adam Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:39pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 643903)
Rule #1. Never, ever take Padgett seriously.

That's rule #3. We all know what #s 1 and 2 are.

fullor30 Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 643993)
Your world ain't the only world. The few people I've worked with that pat the head always mean to communicate that the clock is under a minute. Who actually has the last shot is discussed in pregame.

That's why I said my. How do you signal who has last shot on your planet?

jallen Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:54pm

huh?
 
the trail or the C if he/she is across from the table. This is, as was said earlier, discussed in the pregame, not with 1:01 to go

Adam Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:56pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 643945)
a lot of high school referees, as I have seen, will tap the top of their head to say "under a minute left". That's not in NFHS at all. I did it in a game once, while I knew it wasn't an actual signal, and my partner jokingly asked "were you telling me your head was flat"? That was the last time I used that signal and I tell others not to do that. I'm usually taking a second to look at the clock when the ball is dead.

Seriously? I've officiated in three different metro areas in two states. Some have used the head pat, others the wrist tap, and in my current association we point to the sky. I tend to chest pat if it's mine, but we always pregame the last shot as well. The reminder is good, though.

We also use the horns at 6 fouls pull the trigger finger when we have a sub for a FT shooter.

Adam Fri Dec 18, 2009 05:58pm

My peeve is the foul tip signal, especially when the trail does it on a play in front of me as lead.

tjones1 Fri Dec 18, 2009 06:06pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 643999)
Seriously? I've officiated in three different metro areas in two states. Some have used the head pat, others the wrist tap, and in my current association we point to the sky. I tend to chest pat if it's mine, but we always pregame the last shot as well. The reminder is good, though.

We also use the horns at 6 fouls pull the trigger finger when we have a sub for a FT shooter.

I've never seen the pat on the head either... well I have, but not on a basketball court.

I point to the sky for under a minute which reminds us and whoever is opposite table knows it's their call.

Some around here will point to the sky for under and minute and chest pat for under 30 seconds.

Mark Padgett Fri Dec 18, 2009 06:17pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 643900)
You seriously had a partner roll on the floor......how did you keep a straight face?

Actually, I thought maybe Juulie had hurt herself. :rolleyes:

Bishopcolle Fri Dec 18, 2009 06:41pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 643948)
Because the official, not the clock, indicates there is under a minute left.

:D

Actually, the clock DOES tell us, in this circumstance, that there is under a minute left.....:D

TimTaylor Fri Dec 18, 2009 06:42pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 644006)
Actually, I thought maybe Juulie had hurt herself. :rolleyes:

She's gonna get you for that one!:D

Loudwhistle Fri Dec 18, 2009 06:54pm

Dang it Mark!!
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 643889)
I get annoyed when, to indicate a player traveled while rolling on the floor, my partner gets down on the floor and rolls.

I'm also not sure the signal indicating there's a really well built busty mom in the stands is in the NF manual, but I appreciate it when my partner uses it.

My wife was telling a story and I was supposed to be listening, but my unexpected laugh gave away that I was actually reading the forum off my laptop.

BBrules Fri Dec 18, 2009 08:01pm

just the messenger
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 643974)
I do not believe this. Post a link or something.

Unfortunately, I don't have a link or other reference. I may be able to get one but it will take awhile. As I said, this was something that was momentarily brought up in a clinic.

Adam Fri Dec 18, 2009 09:29pm

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Originally Posted by BBrules (Post 644033)
Unfortunately, I don't have a link or other reference. I may be able to get one but it will take awhile. As I said, this was something that was momentarily brought up in a clinic.

I'm with Rich on this; highly skeptical.

Smitty Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:27am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 643996)
That's why I said my. How do you signal who has last shot on your planet?

For 2-man mechanics, it is usually discussed in pregame who will take the last shot. A lot depends on clock locations, if there aren't 2 clocks. If there are 2 clocks the trail has it always. We signal pointing a finger in the air to indicate we're under 1 minute in both 2-man and 3-man. In 3-man we'll generally all communicate who has the last shot (C or T opposite table) when the clock is under a minute and make sure we all know who has it by pointing to the one who has it and the one who has it will pat their chest. Usually.


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