Those mean, mean officials!

[SmokeEater]

I agree, the "let the players decide the game" statement was made to me last weekend at a JV tourney. This after calling this coaches player for diving on top of an opponent who had secured a loose ball.

Next game I get in the tourney was as a replacement for another ref (I was an emerg call in) and its this same team. Very well played game and it came down to a tie at the end of the game. Player steals the ball and is going in for a lay up. I am trail and my partner is right up ahead as lead and has a great view of the play. He has a patient whistle to allow the girl to make her lay up attempt. Clank hard off the board and front of the rim and out. Ohhh here come OT. BUt no, a late whistle and my partner comes up to me and says, I have to make this call she grabbed her from behind. I said great go ahead and report it.

Player hits the second of 2 shots and its game over. Coach comes up to me after and says sorry about his earlier comments. Bet hes glad we didn't let the players decide that game. (even though they did!)

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

...a late whistle and my partner comes up to me and says, I have to make this call she grabbed her from behind. I said great go ahead and report it.

Just a quick comment.

I see this as a weak action by your partner. Not the call, but having to "come up to" you and explain why he/she made the call.

Maybe your partner just said it in passing...but, if he/she has the call then be strong and go report it. Your partner didn't need your permission and I can just visualize him/her waffling if he/she had to discuss it with you before reporting.

JMO...but, if an official looks strong and confident on the court...it can alleviate some of the coaches whining and complaining...not always, but generally.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

JMO...but, if an official looks strong and confident on the court...it can alleviate some of the coaches whining and complaining...not always, but generally.

Only with a weak coach.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Only with a weak coach.

Or just a smart one, who realizes he's not going to be able to manipulate the officials so he focusses on more reasonable endeavors.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Or just a smart one, who realizes he's not going to be able to manipulate the officials so he focusses on more reasonable endeavors.

Yep, you're correct. However, strong and confident quickly becomes "unapproachable and arrogant" should the film show poor judgment. That precipitates a lot of bad situations.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Yep, you're correct. However, strong and confident quickly becomes "unapproachable and arrogant" should the film show poor judgment. That precipitates a lot of bad situations.

So which is it...a weak coach (as you said) or a smart coach (as snaqs said) and you agreed?

...and how did strong and confident get to unapproachable and arrogant?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...and how did strong and confident get to unapproachable and arrogant?

There's a fine line between them.

On the other end, there's also a fine line between "relaxed and confident" and "bored / uncaring / acts like he doesn't want to be here."