When is enough ... enough

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

FWIW,
2. Stop sign.

Can you explain your procedure in detail. As many know, I have been against this for years and there has been a recent move (In my area at least) to stop doing this. If used like it was in the past, it possibly makes the situation worse.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Can you explain your procedure in detail. As many know, I have been against this for years and there has been a recent move (In my area at least) to stop doing this. If used like it was in the past, it possibly makes the situation worse.

This is why I do not use it as a tool.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Can you explain your procedure in detail. As many know, I have been against this for years and there has been a recent move (In my area at least) to stop doing this. If used like it was in the past, it possibly makes the situation worse.

I use a verbal stop sign.

[Ignats75]

One of the frustrating things about this forum is the near fanatical positions some people take on the stop sign. Some people use them becaue, like me, they have found them to be a useful tool. SOme people don't, because they think it enflames the situation. Good for all of you. To each his own. I've used it twice this year so far and in both cased, the coach reined in his/her emotions (one each) enough to not lose their coaching box. In my case, it did jjust the opposite of enflaming the situation.

But can we get away from trying to start an on-line holy war over the stop sign?

Thank you.

I don't want to have to WHACK all of you!

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Can you explain your procedure in detail. As many know, I have been against this for years and there has been a recent move (In my area at least) to stop doing this. If used like it was in the past, it possibly makes the situation worse.

It was taught when I first started out. So I got to practice using it in lower level games.

Coach chirping and generally reffing the game for us. For example "thats a travel" yada, yada, yada. Go over and have a conversation with coach. Then if the behavior continued we were taught to give them the "Stop Sign" the next time they started reffing/chirping. Then we were to follow up with the T.

It helped give me some structure in dealing with coaches when I was starting out. Did it make things worse ? Probably but I still had a system in place for dealing with the persistent stuff. I needed all the help I can get.

Do I use it now ? Nope. I now go and have a chat about the chirping and they either stop it or I whistle them for it.

I have come to appreciate Julie's take on things in her post up above. A T is just another foul.

As a sidebar I did have a coach lose her head last night. Didn't like my player control call. As I'm reporting it she comes about 5 feet on the court,stomping her feet, and yelling. That was a no conversation T.
She caught up to me afterwards in the parking lot and informed me my officating days were over cause "she knows people."

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Can you explain your procedure in detail. As many know, I have been against this for years and there has been a recent move (In my area at least) to stop doing this. If used like it was in the past, it possibly makes the situation worse.

It was taught when I first started out. So I got to practice using it in lower level games.

Coach chirping and generally reffing the game for us. For example "thats a travel" yada, yada, yada. Go over and have a conversation with coach. Then if the behavior continued we were taught to give them the "Stop Sign" the next time they started reffing/chirping. Then we were to follow up with the T.

It helped give me some structure in dealing with coaches when I was starting out. Did it make things worse ? Probably but I still had a system in place for dealing with the persistent stuff. I needed all the help I could get.

Do I use it now ? Nope. I now go and have a chat about the chirping and they either stop it or I whistle them for it.

I have come to appreciate Julie's take on things in her post up above. A T is just another foul.

As a sidebar I did have a coach lose her head last night. Didn't like my player control call. As I'm reporting it she comes about 5 feet on the court,stomping her feet, and yelling. That was a no conversation T.
She caught up to me afterwards in the parking lot and informed me my officating days were over cause "she knows people."