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[JRutledge]

Some people love their job, others do not. Just because I say treat this as a vocation does not mean you do not love it. But if you do not keep track of what you accept or who calls you, you will not be working for anyone. But if you want to work or maintain customers in your "real" job, you better return calls and send the proper paperwork to the proper people. If you do not, you might not have a job or a business. That is the part that has to be treated like a job or vocation. Just because it is a hobby, does not mean it will not take you a great deal of time an energy. And considering that we do get paid money and have to file taxes based on our officiating, it is a vocation. It might not pay all your bills or make you rich, but it is income.

Peace

[mick]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
... not everyone wants to do college....

Sparky,
It's a fact not everyone wants to do college ball.
As you know, I don't do it much, but given the chance, I would work any Men's ball in a blink.
It is the most fun I have ever had on a hardwood floor.
But, of course, lower level CCA is very different from DII and DI.
mick

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Some people love their job, others do not. Just because I say treat this as a vocation does not mean you do not love it. But if you do not keep track of what you accept or who calls you, you will not be working for anyone. But if you want to work or maintain customers in your "real" job, you better return calls and send the proper paperwork to the proper people. If you do not, you might not have a job or a business. That is the part that has to be treated like a job or vocation. Just because it is a hobby, does not mean it will not take you a great deal of time an energy. And considering that we do get paid money and have to file taxes based on our officiating, it is a vocation. It might not pay all your bills or make you rich, but it is income.

Peace

WTF? You can manage your hobby as a business but that doesn't make it anything more than an avocation. This differs from your real job (your vocation) in that your real job takes priority over your hobby.

I give up...

[JRutledge]

If the information does not apply to you, then move on and look somewhere else. I am sure if you attend camps, you will hear several different views on what officiating is to them or what it should be. I am just one voice, with one opinion on one issue. If you treat this as a hobby and only as a hobby and that works for you, GREAT. I look at this as a second job because of the time committment and because of how it affects my other life. If I did not look at it that way, I would blow off every game I could no matter what happen. When my aunt died on June 30, 2001, I had to think of my officiating schedule and how to work around it or give back games. I could not just blow the games off just to worry about my life for that time. I had to think of what affect my absence or even attendence was going to mean if I had a conflict. That to me is more than a hobby. Because if I did not call anyone to tell them I would not be around and why, I might have not gotten any games the following season. Fantasy Football is a hobby too for many, but if participants blow that off for a day or two, who does it ultimately hurt?

It is just the way you look at it. If that is not your way, it is not your way.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
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I give up... [/B][/QUOTE]Is this where I get to jump in and holler "I TOLD YA SO!"?

[stripes]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Agree with mick.I think a better statement might be "you can know the rules,but not know WHEN to apply them".That tells you that judgement still needs to be developed.Is that what you were trying to say,Stripes?

Semantics...To me "how" will include "when". Said another way "when" is a funtion of "how". "How" to apply a rule, to me, means understanding what the rule's intent is and where it fits into the game. Better clarity on my position?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I give up... [/B]

Is this where I get to jump in and holler "I TOLD YA SO!"? [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, go ahead, I have it coming. Where the heck is Tony, fer gawds sake???

[LarryS]

I'll toss in my two cents. I think everyone left off one of the most important things...HAVE FUN.

God, if you don't enjoy what you are doing (don't care if it your vocation or advocation) for Pete's sake quit. Life is way to short to be doing things you don't enjoy.

I will study the rules, work on game management, complete the proper paperwork for my association and the state, etc. I'll even send in the paperwork to get paid...but won't call and check the status of the payment. I do this because I enjoy it. Any money is a bonus. I don't worry about tracking mileage, meals and the small stuff (I will keep the receipts for thing over $50). If I was that concerned over the money and advancing I would have started much younger. The way I look at it, the kids in grades 5-8 need someone to call their games as well. If you want to focus on the bigger students so you can advance to the next level that's great, I'll take your rejects.

If this approach makes me a bad official, oh well...someone has the be the worse at every vocation and advocation.

[JRutledge]

No other way to state it. Everyone has to find their own way to why they do this. I am sure if we ask the board why they started officiating and why they continue to officiate, you will find 100 different reasons.

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by LarryS


I'll toss in my two cents. I think everyone left off one of the most important things...HAVE FUN.

God, if you don't enjoy what you are doing (don't care if it your vocation or advocation) for Pete's sake quit. Life is way to short to be doing things you don't enjoy.

I will study the rules, work on game management, complete the proper paperwork for my association and the state, etc. I'll even send in the paperwork to get paid...but won't call and check the status of the payment. I do this because I enjoy it. Any money is a bonus. I don't worry about tracking mileage, meals and the small stuff (I will keep the receipts for thing over $50). If I was that concerned over the money and advancing I would have started much younger. The way I look at it, the kids in grades 5-8 need someone to call their games as well. If you want to focus on the bigger students so you can advance to the next level that's great, I'll take your rejects.

If this approach makes me a bad official, oh well...someone has the be the worse at every vocation and advocation.

Larry, you are obviously one of the good guys!

(BTW, if you're claiming this stuff on your tax forms then
I would encourage you to track your expenses closely. And
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only guy who is still owed
a few bucks by some school or league!)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by stripes
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Semantics...To me "how" will include "when". Said another way "when" is a funtion of "how". "How" to apply a rule, to me, means understanding what the rule's intent is and where it fits into the game. Better clarity on my position? [/B][/QUOTE]Much better clarified.I was pretty sure that you meant something like that,but the "how" can be interpreted different ways,as some other posters(including myself) did interpret it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]

Yeah, go ahead, I have it coming. Where the heck is Tony, fer gawds sake??? [/B][/QUOTE]RutBuster?He's out walking his pet rat!

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 8th, 2002 at 05:18 PM]

[Oz Referee]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Apparently - not too long.

However, my best tip remains: tuck your whistle in your shirt before you take a leak.

Mark - either your a midget, or you use a lanyard that is way too long

[mick]

Originally posted by stripes

Semantics...To me "how" will include "when". Said another way "when" is a funtion of "how". "How" to apply a rule, to me, means understanding what the rule's intent is and where it fits into the game. Better clarity on my position?

yer fine.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Oz Referee

Mark - either your a midget, or you use a lanyard that is way too long

Apparently, you're not aware of the "splashback factor".