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mutantducky Fri Dec 11, 2009 03:57pm

best and-1(count it) motion
 
That is something I need to work on. I see some college refs and NBA guys who really make an act of it. Sometimes there is no need for it but I want to have a better one.
a video collage would be nice. but can't find any


YouTube - Iverson: Count the Basket and he's Fouled!


also- what would your call be here
YouTube - Allen Iverson - Crossover on Terrell Brandon in '97

Raymond Fri Dec 11, 2009 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 641808)

Can't see the video here at work, but I'm assuming I would have called palming.

fullor30 Fri Dec 11, 2009 04:05pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 641808)
That is something I need to work on. I see some college refs and NBA guys who really make an act of it. Sometimes there is no need for it but I want to have a better one.
a video collage would be nice. but can't find any


YouTube - Iverson: Count the Basket and he's Fouled!


also- what would your call be here
YouTube - Allen Iverson - Crossover on Terrell Brandon in '97


Not a fan of the ref banging it home, but I wish I had his guns.

bob jenkins Fri Dec 11, 2009 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 641808)
That is something I need to work on.

Why? It's just another call. No need to make a big show of it.

If you need to "sell" something, sell the foul call that leads to the "and one"

Scratch85 Fri Dec 11, 2009 04:31pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 641816)
Why? It's just another call. No need to make a big show of it.

But "BANGIN'" it is sooooo much fun! :D

mutantducky Fri Dec 11, 2009 05:20pm

I think it was the Utah Michigan game where the guy had a great one where he stepped out and really did the whole windmill motion. Sure it is over the top but fun. as long as they just don't do it for the home crowd...or hit a player with the swing

that first one is total look at my muscles while I count the basket. Him and Ed Hochuli are zebra brothers.

fullor30 Fri Dec 11, 2009 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 641834)
I think it was the Utah Michigan game where the guy had a great one where he stepped out and really did the whole windmill motion. Sure it is over the top but fun. as long as they just don't do it for the home crowd...or hit a player with the swing

that first one is total look at my muscles while I count the basket. Him and Ed Hochuli are zebra brothers.

Personally, I think it looks silly and it draws attention to you. We've all seen the 25 point blowout with 100 fans and someone generates enough energy to power a small country.

jeschmit Fri Dec 11, 2009 05:55pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 641813)
Not a fan of the ref banging it home...

Me either. A simple drop of the fist that I called the foul with two fingers out to point that two points went in with the foul is enough to get the point across. The players and fans are already excited, so there is no need for an official to get excited along with them. Stay if your mechanics look calm and collected, then you look like it was supposed to happen that way... just my two cents...

MOofficial Sat Dec 12, 2009 08:35am

It is weird that this is a topic because I was watching the Georgetown/Butler game the other night and was in awe of Mike Stephens and 1 call for Monroe against Butler.

Monroe, Georgetown Top Butler, 72-65 - ESPN Video - ESPN
(15 second mark is where the play starts)

After I saw this I tried doing it in the mirror and I look like I'm in JH again and have no coordination doing it or so I felt.

When I saw this I checked out statsheet to see who he was because I follow alot of those guys just to see where there at and the games they have and Stephens is moving up really fast! From statsheet this will be his 10th year working D1. He worked his first conference tournament in his 3rd year, 4th year worked a NIT 4th round, 8th year NCAA Tourny first round, 9th year he worked the 3rd round.

In no way am I talking this guy up, I'm from Missouri from a small town, just a little farm kid with big dreams. I get on statsheet frequently as I have some friends who work D1 and want to follow them. I just saw the game that night and wondered who the hell is that guy? Apparently he is pretty damn good!

bob jenkins Sat Dec 12, 2009 08:44am

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Originally Posted by MOofficial (Post 641962)
It is weird that this is a topic because I was watching the Georgetown/Butler game the other night and was in awe of Mike Stephens and 1 call for Monroe against Butler.

Monroe, Georgetown Top Butler, 72-65 - ESPN Video - ESPN
(15 second mark is where the play starts)

After I saw this I tried doing it in the mirror and I look like I'm in JH again and have no coordination doing it or so I felt.

When I saw this I checked out statsheet to see who he was because I follow alot of those guys just to see where there at and the games they have and Stephens is moving up really fast! From statsheet this will be his 10th year working D1. He worked his first conference tournament in his 3rd year, 4th year worked a NIT 4th round, 8th year NCAA Tourny first round, 9th year he worked the 3rd round.

In no way am I talking this guy up, I'm from Missouri from a small town, just a little farm kid with big dreams. I get on statsheet frequently as I have some friends who work D1 and want to follow them. I just saw the game that night and wondered who the hell is that guy? Apparently he is pretty damn good!

sniff. sniff.

A Pennsylvania Coach Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:16am

I try to do it like the drawing in the book.

I hate hate hate seeing the "count the basket" motion with the other hand, not the one with the fist in the air.

Adam Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:21am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 641967)
sniff. Sniff.

:) rotflmao!

Hartsy Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:40am

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Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 642489)
I try to do it like the drawing in the book.

I hate hate hate seeing the "count the basket" motion with the other hand, not the one with the fist in the air.

AARGH. I hate this too but haven't been able to break the habit. Same with signaling a push with one hand while still having the fist up. I'm not sure when these crept in to my mechanics, but I want them GONE.

APG Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:44am

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Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 642489)
I try to do it like the drawing in the book.

I hate hate hate seeing the "count the basket" motion with the other hand, not the one with the fist in the air.

I find myself "counting" it with the other hand. Never had anyone say anything about it.

fullor30 Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOofficial (Post 641962)
It is weird that this is a topic because I was watching the Georgetown/Butler game the other night and was in awe of Mike Stephens and 1 call for Monroe against Butler.

Monroe, Georgetown Top Butler, 72-65 - ESPN Video - ESPN
(15 second mark is where the play starts)

After I saw this I tried doing it in the mirror and I look like I'm in JH again and have no coordination doing it or so I felt.

When I saw this I checked out statsheet to see who he was because I follow alot of those guys just to see where there at and the games they have and Stephens is moving up really fast! From statsheet this will be his 10th year working D1. He worked his first conference tournament in his 3rd year, 4th year worked a NIT 4th round, 8th year NCAA Tourny first round, 9th year he worked the 3rd round.

In no way am I talking this guy up, I'm from Missouri from a small town, just a little farm kid with big dreams. I get on statsheet frequently as I have some friends who work D1 and want to follow them. I just saw the game that night and wondered who the hell is that guy? Apparently he is pretty damn good!

So Mr Stephens, how long has your son been officiating?

GoodwillRef Mon Dec 14, 2009 01:02pm

Just a simple "count it" with 2 fingers out in front of your body. It is just letting everyone know the shot counts...looks better to me if you stay calm and under control.

shavano Mon Dec 14, 2009 01:12pm

Different sport but great motion!! No one counts it like Lesile Nielson! :D

YouTube - Three Strikes

IREFU2 Mon Dec 14, 2009 03:46pm

Oh yeah, I like that....!!!!


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