Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 641362)

Don't have my books on me, but each one these can be referenced in the rule book.

#1 will be confirmed in the rule book.

#2 & #3 will be refuted by the rule book.

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641359)

1. A1 violates when a pass by A1 touches B1 who is standing on a sideline.

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 641364)

A player is allowed to gain control on the floor and slide to a stop. 4-44-5 and 4.44.5 Situation B.

Originally Posted by cdoug (Post 641371)

So do I understand right that if a player who slides and end on their stomach/chest cannot get tot their knees to pass the ball and must stay on their stomach/chest in order to pass it? (Of course, if they "want" to travel they can move other than that.)

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 641387)

Does this clarify? - - -
4.44.5 SITUATION B: If flat on his/her
back, A1 may sit up without violating. Any attempt to get to the feet is traveling
unless A1 is dribbling.

Seems that rising to one's knees <s>c</s>would be considered the equivalent of attempting to get to his/her feet, right?

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641363)

Thanks. I'll hit the books again then! ;)

Originally Posted by cdoug (Post 641371)

So do I understand right that if a player who slides and end on their stomach/chest cannot get tot their knees to pass the ball and must stay on their stomach/chest in order to pass it? (Of course, if they "want" to travel they can move other than that.)

Originally Posted by bbcof83 (Post 641400)

The way I understand it is a player is allowed to dive for a ball, gain possession and slide as far as his momentum takes him. Once he stops he mustn't change his plane and can dribble, pass, shoot or <s>call</s> request TO.

To your question about getting to his knees, that would be a violation. The pivot is the point that is in contact with the floor (when sitting, the rear end). When pivot is changed (to a foot when attempting to stand) a violation has occurred.

I also understand this to be true: A player on the ground violates if he moves so that the plane of his body that is in contact with the floor changes (ie, roll from back to side, roll from front to side, roll from side to back, etc). So no rolling around, basically.

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 641359)

Does anyone know where I'd find the references to these situations, or am I not finding the reference because there is no such rule (e.g. #3)?

1. A1 violates when a pass by A1 touches B1 who is standing on a sideline.

2. It is a violation if A1 drives for a loose ball and gains control on the floor.

3. While guarding, there is a minimum distance of one foot required between the guard and the opponent.

Originally Posted by bbcof83 (Post 641400)

The way I understand it is a player is allowed to dive for a ball, gain possession and slide as far as his momentum takes him. Once he stops he mustn't change his plane and can dribble, pass, shoot or call TO.

To your question about getting to his knees, that would be a violation. The pivot is the point that is in contact with the floor (when sitting, the rear end). When pivot is changed (to a foot when attempting to stand) a violation has occurred.
I also understand this to be true: A player on the ground violates if he moves so that the plane of his body that is in contact with the floor changes (ie, roll from back to side, roll from front to side, roll from side to back, etc). So no rolling around, basically.

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 641408)

;)

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641418)

Uhm. Where is this found?

Originally Posted by bbcof83 (Post 641424)

Nowhere I guess, just trying to help the newbie by putting it in less technical terms. Or maybe I'm just lazy.:)