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tbarron Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:08am

Technical foul after held ball
 
This happened in a game last night.

During a game we have a held ball. The possession arrow is to the home team. After the whistle, a player for the visiting team swings an elbow at the opposing player but does not make contact. A technical foul is called. The free throws are administered and the ball is given to the home team at mid court.

Does the possession arrow change to the visiting team after the throw in? And, if the possession arrow had been to the visiting team, should they have been given the ball because of the “point of interruption”? The alternating possession situation is where my confusion is.

This is one of those weird situations that came up during the game last night. It was late in the game with only a minute or so left, so the possession arrow never came into play again, but as I thought about it last night after the game on the ride home, I was trying to remember what we would have done if it had been earlier in the game.

Adam Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:11am

What was the throwin for? That should answer your question.

Alternatively, if the arrow had been pointing to the visitors, would you take the arrow away from them?

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:22am

Assuming this was played using NFHS rules, single technical fouls do not involve returning to the point of interruption. The penalty for a single technical foul is two free throws plus the ball for a throw-in at the division line. As for the AP throw-in, whatever would have happened had the T not occurred ... simply does not happen.

Refsmitty Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:50am

Meaing the arrow would not change?

Berkut Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:55am

The arrow does not change until the throw in is complete. The throw in never happened, so no, the arrow does not change. There never is an alternating possession procedure.

tbarron Tue Dec 01, 2009 02:26pm

Got it right
 
My partner and I got it right then. We did not change the arrow.

tjones1 Tue Dec 01, 2009 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 638923)
Meaing the arrow would not change?

Correct. The throw-in is for the technical foul penalty; it's not an AP throw-in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbarron (Post 638959)
My partner and I got it right then. We did not change the arrow.

Attaboy!

Juulie Downs Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 639002)
Attaboy!

Oh. My. Gosh. Tanner is channelling mick!!

tjones1 Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 639045)
Oh. My. Gosh. Tanner is channelling mick!!

:D

At least it's not Mark, right? ;) I don't think I can pull off the fishnets.

:D Just kidding, Mark.

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:36am

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Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 639045)
Oh. My. Gosh. Tanner is channelling mick!!

The world could use another heapin' helpin' of mick.

mbyron Wed Dec 02, 2009 07:35am

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 639063)
:D

At least it's not Mark, right? ;) I don't think I can pull off the fishnets.

I didn't think that there was anything worse than imagining fishnets ON Padgett. :D


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