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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 03:32pm
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Not really. LGP is a status gained by having both feet on the floor and facing an opponent. If I turn my back I am not in LGP. But I still have that section of the floor. Same thing if my back is turned to an opponent and he decided to run me over on his way to the basket. I don't have LGP, but I have the right to my position on the floor.
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 03:57pm
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Not really. LGP is a status gained by having both feet on the floor and facing an opponent. If I turn my back I am not in LGP. But I still have that section of the floor. Same thing if my back is turned to an opponent and he decided to run me over on his way to the basket. I don't have LGP, but I have the right to my position on the floor.
Wrong.

4-23-2 talks about "obtaining" legal guarding position.
a. The guard must have both feet touching the playing court
b. The front of the guard's torso must be facing the opponent.

then 4-23-3 defines it AFTER legal guarding position is obtained:
a.
b. The guard is NOT required to continue facing the opponent
c.
d.
e. The guard may turn or duck to absorb the shock of the imminent contact
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 05:40pm
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Wrong.

4-23-2 talks about "obtaining" legal guarding position.
aThe guard must have both feet touching the playing court
b
The front of the guard's torso must be facing the opponent.

then 4-23-3 defines it AFTER legal guarding position is obtained:
a. 
b. The guard is NOT required to continue facing the opponent
c.
d. 
e. The guard may turn or duck to absorb the shock of the imminent contact 
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Same thing if my back is turned to an opponent and he decided to run me over on his way to the basketI don't have LGP, but I have the right to my position on the floor. 
I didn't say I had LGP here, I am entitled to my space on the floor. Just because I am not facing and obtaining LGP doesn't mean I can't get a player control foul. Look at it this way. If I am guarding another guy and my back is towards the player with the ball, other than my coach screaming at me to see the ball, if the dribbler drives through me on his way to the basket is it player control?
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Old Tue Nov 24, 2009, 06:05pm
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I didn't say I had LGP here, I am entitled to my space on the floor. Just because I am not facing and obtaining LGP doesn't mean I can't get a player control foul. Look at it this way. If I am guarding another guy and my back is towards the player with the ball, other than my coach screaming at me to see the ball, if the dribbler drives through me on his way to the basket is it player control?
You asked about the OP, then later claimed:
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Not really. LGP is a status gained by having both feet on the floor and facing an opponent. If I turn my back I am not in LGP. But I still have that section of the floor. Same thing if my back is turned to an opponent and he decided to run me over on his way to the basket. I don't have LGP, but I have the right to my position on the floor.
The part in red is what's incorrect. Turning your back at that point does not lose LGP. You are correct that LGP is not required for a PC foul as long as you are stationary. LGP allows certain movements at the point of contact by the defender, but a stationary player does not require it.
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