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Welpe Fri Nov 20, 2009 03:22pm

Only if you bag over your limit of roaches.

fullor30 Fri Nov 20, 2009 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 637321)
No, far better. :D

Peace

Add one far to the above..........

Camron Rust Sat Nov 21, 2009 01:14am

I just picked up an ABW customer from the NH/Mass. area on RefTown....got all of his stuff converted and ready to roll in a just a few hours.

I've also spoken with an assignor from Chicago who is part of a group of assignors and hope to speak with them some more.

All I can say is that that RefTown is always comes out favorably when givean a true comparison with any other product.

I'm also offering a full year free for anyone converting from ABW. Why? I know they'll be satisified and stay. I've pick up other ABW customers in the past and they have never looked back.

amusedofficial Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:29am

Smooth Transition Vowed; Minions Double Over Laffing
 
When the IT people promise a smooth transition in a conversion from one program to the other, cover the young 'uns ears, because it usually isn't and the language is about to get very colorful

RefItUp Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:01pm

Indeed; I saw the message the other day and informed our Assignor. This will be chaos during the transition between the two. I can see it now. And that's if I assume correctly, that we are going with the other company.

Welpe Sat Nov 21, 2009 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 637460)
When the IT people promise a smooth transition in a conversion from one program to the other, cover the young 'uns ears, because it usually isn't and the language is about to get very colorful

From my experience in the IT field, it's usually not the IT folks making these promises, it is the people in sales. :rolleyes:

BillyMac Sun Nov 22, 2009 02:27am

Do You Have A Pointy Haired Boss ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 637517)
From my experience in the IT field, it's usually not the IT folks making these promises, it is the people in sales.

You've been reading Dilbert.

mbyron Sun Nov 22, 2009 08:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 637517)
From my experience in the IT field, it's usually not the IT folks making these promises, it is the people in sales. :rolleyes:

And they're often told what to say by the managers who made the original deal, who seem to understand IT approximately as well as my cats.

umpref Tue Dec 01, 2009 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 637438)
I just picked up an ABW customer from the NH/Mass. area on RefTown....got all of his stuff converted and ready to roll in a just a few hours.

I've also spoken with an assignor from Chicago who is part of a group of assignors and hope to speak with them some more.

All I can say is that that RefTown is always comes out favorably when givean a true comparison with any other product.

I'm also offering a full year free for anyone converting from ABW. Why? I know they'll be satisified and stay. I've pick up other ABW customers in the past and they have never looked back.

I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool! ;)

But, I really prefer RefTown over Arbiter any day of the week. FAR easier for the user to understand.

Welpe Tue Dec 01, 2009 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 637538)
You've been reading Dilbert.

Reading? I live it! :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637548)
And they're often told what to say by the managers who made the original deal, who seem to understand IT approximately as well as my cats.

Sounds about right. About as annoying as the managers that view IT simply as an "expense".

fullor30 Tue Dec 01, 2009 03:47pm

Every major assignor in Chicago area that was using ABW just signed up with Arbiter............Yeh!

Camron Rust Tue Dec 01, 2009 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by umpref (Post 638964)
I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool! ;)

But, I really prefer RefTown over Arbiter any day of the week. FAR easier for the user to understand.

I don't know who you are but thanks for the kind words.

Released that upgrade last night...to a degree. When you accept a game in one association, you can optionally have it mark you as not available for that date for your other associations. You choose which ones get updated. For example, you could accept a HS game, have it mark you out for rec leagues but leave you open for a possible college assignment.


Making the calendars all in one seems like a good idea until you realize that they often end up with different info. You don't want your calendar to show you as not available on the association where you have a game. You might wish to reserve dates for one assignor by blocking out the others until your preferred assignor gets their schedule entered.

I might look at an extra layer of caledars....one that applies globaly but that just might get too complicated for most users to comprehend given that RefTown availability calendars already have the most flexibility of any I've seen.

For those on ABW, I just created an custom import routine where I can upload data exported from ABW in less than an hour...possibly as little as 15 minutes in some cases....all rosters, games, assignments....just about every thing a group would need to be running in less than a day. And I'm offering a free year just to try it out. A no-lose situation.

IREFU2 Wed Dec 02, 2009 09:22am

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 637460)
When the IT people promise a smooth transition in a conversion from one program to the other, cover the young 'uns ears, because it usually isn't and the language is about to get very colorful

I totally disagree with this statement. I am an IT person and we dont make such promises. The sales people sell stuff and we have to make it work.

tjchamp Wed Dec 02, 2009 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by IREFU2 (Post 639108)
I totally disagree with this statement. I am an IT person and we dont make such promises. The sales people sell stuff and we have to make it work.

Our sales people pull the same stunts here.

Cobra Wed Dec 02, 2009 05:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpref (Post 638964)
I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool! ;)

You say that RefTown is better than the Arbiter in every way then right away say something that you wish RefTown did that the Arbiter does....:confused:


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