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amusedofficial Wed Nov 11, 2009 09:28am

Never make assumptions
 
A thread has been disappeared about a request for the IAABO exam, amidst suggestions that some sort of nefarious purpose was behind the request. I was writing what follows as it went to the land of the 18 and a half minute gap.

It is not clear whether the request was made by someone in an IAABO jurisdiction, or if in IAABO jurisdiction, from board with an open book/open review approach to the test. It it entirely possible the request came from someone just looking for another set of questions to work his head around.

So to assume it's some sort of scheme to get the test in advance of taking that specific test in an examination environment may be jumping the gun and painting someone in a bad light based on assumptions that may be faulty.

Some of us are just nerdy enough to roam the web and chase down exams we will never formally take, often from places we never heard of, just to get thinking about situations as the season approaches. It works best when you use one for which the answers are available or which will eventually be available once the exam serves its purpose (such as the IAABO refresher exam).

Interpreting basketball rules requires one to think a little bit differently than one does in day-to-day life, and working out some problems and situations as the season approaches gets the brain in that sort of mode. Somehow I don't think someone with 1,900 posts here is going to think s/he's going to find a lot of support for beating the system.

"Those doofers must have stolen the wrong exam!"
--Donald "Boon" Schoenstein, 1962.

just another ref Wed Nov 11, 2009 09:54am

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 635608)
"Those doofers must have stolen the wrong exam!"
--Donald "Boon" Schoenstein, 1962.


I assume you know that "doofers" is not the actual term used in the above quote.

bob jenkins Wed Nov 11, 2009 09:55am

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Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 635608)
So to assume it's some sort of scheme to get the test in advance of taking that specific test in an examination environment may be jumping the gun and painting someone in a bad light based on assumptions that may be faulty.

I don't recall anyone making that assumption or painting anyone in a bad light, in that thread.

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Some of us are just nerdy enough to roam the web and chase down exams we will never formally take, often from places we never heard of, just to get thinking about situations as the season approaches. It works best when you use one for which the answers are available or which will eventually be available once the exam serves its purpose (such as the IAABO refresher exam).
And, at least in years past, the exam has been available once the IAABO testing date is passed.

99% (SWAG, I admit) of the requests for exams are from people trying to cheat (at some level). It's better, imo, to just delete such requests. And, to be clear, I've deleted several (5 or so) such requests for various tests in the past couple of days.

Now, if someone wants to request the 2008 test, ...

rsl Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:08am

Now that you mention it ...
 
Actually, my state doesn't use IAABO, just NFHS, so an IAABO test from 2008 might be kinda fun. I assume it is posted somewhere on the internet?

Adam Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:28am

Always listen to Bob.

shavano Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:01am

This year's version must have been a doozy. Out of 23 cadets taking the test in our area, no one got the 86%.

Adam Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:26am

I know we had some pass, but I don't know how many took it.

BktBallRef Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 635608)
A thread has been disappeared about a request for the IAABO exam, amidst suggestions that some sort of nefarious purpose was behind the request. I was writing what follows as it went to the land of the 18 and a half minute gap.

It is not clear whether the request was made by someone in an IAABO jurisdiction, or if in IAABO jurisdiction, from board with an open book/open review approach to the test. It it entirely possible the request came from someone just looking for another set of questions to work his head around.

So to assume it's some sort of scheme to get the test in advance of taking that specific test in an examination environment may be jumping the gun and painting someone in a bad light based on assumptions that may be faulty.

Some of us are just nerdy enough to roam the web and chase down exams we will never formally take, often from places we never heard of, just to get thinking about situations as the season approaches. It works best when you use one for which the answers are available or which will eventually be available once the exam serves its purpose (such as the IAABO refresher exam).

Interpreting basketball rules requires one to think a little bit differently than one does in day-to-day life, and working out some problems and situations as the season approaches gets the brain in that sort of mode. Somehow I don't think someone with 1,900 posts here is going to think s/he's going to find a lot of support for beating the system.

None of that means a tinker's damn. Requests for current exams are always deleted for obvious reasons.

BillyMac Wed Nov 11, 2009 08:08pm

I'm Always In The Mood For A Good Basketball Rules Question ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 635608)
Some of us are just nerdy enough to roam the web and chase down exams we will never formally take, often from places we never heard of, just to get thinking about situations as the season approaches.

I'm in a 100% IAABO state, I've already taken my IAABO refresher exam.

A few weeks ago, I found a copy of the NFHS exam, 100 questions, no answers, on one of the internet basketball forums (Official Forum, NFHS forum, or Basketballrefs forum) and I plan to peruse through it at a convenient time. Does that make me "nerdy"?

Zoochy Wed Nov 11, 2009 08:44pm

IAABO test.
 
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Originally Posted by shavano (Post 635627)
This year's version must have been a doozy. Out of 23 cadets taking the test in our area, no one got the 86%.

I thought that this years IAABO test was fairly easy. Our board in Missouri mails the test to us. We had about a week to send it back. It's an open book test for us. Last year I got together with 12 other members to go over the questions and get the correct answer. Some of those bozo's submitted incorrect answers. Still, at least 10% of our organization get less than 86%. Some of the failing officials are our senior officials.:eek:
Like BillyMac, I also retrieved the NFHS Part I test. We only need to take the NFHS Part II test.:D

BillyMac Wed Nov 11, 2009 09:29pm

Challenging, But Fair ...
 
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Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 635742)
I thought that this years IAABO test was fairly easy.

Same here. My interpreter told us that the international office put a lot of time and effort into making this year's exam challenging, but fair. I believe that they succeeded.

shavano Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:59pm

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Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 635742)
I thought that this years IAABO test was fairly easy. Our board in Missouri mails the test to us. We had about a week to send it back. It's an open book test for us. Last year I got together with 12 other members to go over the questions and get the correct answer. Some of those bozo's submitted incorrect answers. Still, at least 10% of our organization get less than 86%. Some of the failing officials are our senior officials.:eek:
Like BillyMac, I also retrieved the NFHS Part I test. We only need to take the NFHS Part II test.:D

In our area, the IAABO test is closed book. Then after you pass it, you'll do the open book NFHS test in a group setting the following years.

I'd like to find a copy of this year's refresher after all of the test dates are over. Guess that makes me "nerdy"...

Back In The Saddle Thu Nov 12, 2009 08:34am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 635738)
Does that make me "nerdy"?

I assume this is you, Billy?:D

BillyMac Thu Nov 12, 2009 09:17pm

I Do Own, And Know How to Use, A Slide Rule ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 635782)

Back In The Saddle: Thanks. Good post. Very entertaining.

I was in the Chess Club. Ninth grade intermediate champion. I was sandbagging. I should have been in the expert bracket, where I would have gotten my butt kicked.

What's "Weird Al" Yankovic going to do now that Michael Jackson has passed?

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 13, 2009 03:45am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 635893)
Back In The Saddle: Thanks. Good post. Very entertaining.

I was in the Chess Club. Ninth grade intermediate champion. I was sandbagging. I should have been in the expert bracket.

What's "Weird Al" Yankovic going to do now that Michael Jackson has passed?

Collaborate more with Donny Osmond?


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