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eyezen Fri Oct 23, 2009 07:45pm

NCAA mechanics change
 
Looking at newest mens crew of three manual...one change that caught my attention because no one mentioned it at the jamboree I worked last week.

When Lead calls a foul in the frontcourt, with the ball going the other way (no shots) the lead will become the new C and C will become new T.

No more V-backs.

Mark Padgett Fri Oct 23, 2009 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 632556)
No more V-backs.

Darn. I kind of liked this one.

http://www.lauradawson.com/~laurad/s...ed-back350.jpg

All_Heart Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:53am

No one mentioned it because no one is going to be doing it! I've talked with a number of top level officials and their reaction was "that's stupid and I'm not doing it in my game".

It will just cause more confusion then it will actually help.

Of course you should be aware that your partner might switch with you in these situations and be ready for it. Great item to add to the pregame this year.

dahoopref Sun Oct 25, 2009 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by All_Heart (Post 632717)
No one mentioned it because no one is going to be doing it! I've talked with a number of top level officials and their reaction was "that's stupid and I'm not doing it in my game".

It will just cause more confusion then it will actually help.

Of course you should be aware that your partner might switch with you in these situations and be ready for it. Great item to add to the pregame this year.

Well, your "no one" isn't correct because I worked a scrimmage yesterday with "top level officials" and we worked on it. It took some getting used to but it wasn't painful. It will only cause "confusion" if you don't work on it.

John Adams was specific at the D1 clinic about mechanics and if the guys you talked to refrain from doing proper mechanics, then don't expect them to move on the further rounds of the NCAA tournament.

IREFU2 Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:29am

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 632556)
Looking at newest mens crew of three manual...one change that caught my attention because no one mentioned it at the jamboree I worked last week.

When Lead calls a foul in the frontcourt, with the ball going the other way (no shots) the lead will become the new C and C will become new T.

No more V-backs.

This must be on the mens side of things........

bob jenkins Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:37am

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 632556)
Looking at newest mens crew of three manual

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Originally Posted by IREFU2 (Post 632869)
This must be on the mens side of things........

That seems obvious.

icallfouls Mon Oct 26, 2009 03:50pm

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Originally Posted by All_Heart (Post 632717)
No one mentioned it because no one is going to be doing it! I've talked with a number of top level officials and their reaction was "that's stupid and I'm not doing it in my game".

It will just cause more confusion then it will actually help.

Of course you should be aware that your partner might switch with you in these situations and be ready for it. Great item to add to the pregame this year.

I guess that the "no one's" you are referring to don't have any interest in working the post season. The NCAA is making it clear what is required of its officials.

Back In The Saddle Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:36pm

Well, post season isn't much of an issue for me. But I worked on it with several different crews over the weekend. It wasn't too hard to do. It was a pain having to explain it every time.

dahoopref Tue Nov 17, 2009 01:24pm

Just got an email from my assignor and read it on the NCAA Arbiter site from John Adams:

"There are some updated mechanics now posted on the web site that deal with two issues. The first deals with the calling official, on all fouls, ALWAYS going opposite the table and the second deals with a mechanic to be used when calling a blocking foul on a secondary defender, "under the basket". This new mechanic will be very beneficial in identifying this automatic "under the basket" blocking foul by a secondary defender, to the media, coaches, players, fans and your officiating partners."

If the L calls a team/player control in the front court, they will either go C or new L opposite the table; no pushing. If you call a team/player foul L opposite table, you report, go the length of the floor, and become the new L opposite table.

If you call a call a blocking foul for a defender being under the basket, you give a preliminary signal of "blocking" and then point to the floor in the vicinity underneath the basket.

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 17, 2009 03:33pm

Block then point is one variation. The other is fist, point, block.

zebraman Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by All_Heart (Post 632717)
No one mentioned it because no one is going to be doing it! I've talked with a number of top level officials and their reaction was "that's stupid and I'm not doing it in my game".

If that's their attitude, they won't be top officials under John Adams. Around here, all the men's college officials (including junior college) are using the new mechanic (although we have screwed it up a couple times). :-)

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Nov 18, 2009 08:38am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 636723)
Block then point is one variation. The other is fist, point, block.

I've been seeing this more often than not in the JUCO games I've observed so far this season.


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