Whistling the "T"

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Depends on the nature of the T.

For example, there is no need to make any significant display for an administrative T.....

That being said, how would you handle the pre-game dunk? Whistle & signal as it occurs or simply head to coach & the table?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That being said, how would you handle the pre-game dunk? Whistle & signal as it occurs or simply head to coach & the table?

You do not need to get everyone's attention. The game is not live and all you need to do is inform the appropriate parties which include the table and the head coach (and your partners of course).

Peace

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That being said, how would you handle the pre-game dunk? Whistle & signal as it occurs or simply head to coach & the table?

Whistle, fist up, bird dog. Move towards the player who fouled and say his jersey color and number. Then give the preliminary signal (the NFHS doesn't have an official signal for illegal dunking but you can put your arms above your head and them move them downward like you are dunking a ball). Next signal the number of free throws you are awarding. Move around the players to the reporting area, come to a stop, and report the foul.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That being said, how would you handle the pre-game dunk? Whistle & signal as it occurs or simply head to coach & the table?

Originally Posted by Scratch85

When the clock is stopped and you find it necessary to call a "T", do you whistle and tap or just go to the table and report the "T"?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The only time I would not use all the proscribed mechanics is when it might unnecessarily inflame the situation.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is no need to make any significant display for an administrative T

Originally Posted by Scratch85

Which means that we are not required to blow the whistle when we call a T.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The game is not live and all you need to do is inform the appropriate parties which include the table and the head coach (and your partners of course).

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

That's why there is no definitive direction in the books about when and if to blow the whistle on T's. Camron and others have given some good advice on when to blow it, and when not to.

Originally Posted by mbyron

What's the proper procedure for calling any foul?

Originally Posted by LDUB

Whistle, fist up, bird dog. Move towards the player who fouled and say his jersey color and number. Then give the preliminary signal (the NFHS doesn't have an official signal for illegal dunking but you can put your arms above your head and them move them downward like you are dunking a ball). Next signal the number of free throws you are awarding. Move around the players to the reporting area, come to a stop, and report the foul.

Wasn't the pregame dunk whistle, or non whistle, discussed here in the past, or was that on another forum?

Posts by Snaqwells, Camron Rust, Scratch85, JRutledge, and M&M Guy, seem to lean toward not blowing the whistle.

mbyron, and LDUB, seem to lean toward blowing the whistle.

I'm leaning toward not blowing the whistle, but I can't find any rulebook, casebook, or manual citation to back up my opinion.

Anybody got any pertinent citations, or is the lack of a citation, as implied by mbyron, that leads us to treating the pregame dunk like any other foul, be it personal, or technical? And based on mbyron's, and LDUB's, posts, are we also going to blow the whistle for administrative type technical fouls, i.e., player not in the book, wrong number in the book, excess time out, player participating after being removed from the game for disqualification, etc.

Can we explore this further?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

are we also going to blow the whistle for administrative type technical fouls, i.e., player not in the book, wrong number in the book, excess time out, player participating after being removed from the game for disqualification

I would say don't blow the whistle before the game.

If a disqualified player is participating wouldn't you have to blow the whistle and signal to stop the clock?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LDUB

If a disqualified player is participating wouldn't you have to blow the whistle and signal to stop the clock?

Maybe? Maybe not? I can see this situation happening a lot of different ways, and it's never happened to me. I can see the table crew either talking to an official during a dead ball, or sounding the horn during an appropriate time, and then, if an official decides to make the ball dead with his whistle, talking to an official. I really don't see an official recognizing this during a live ball situation, unless it's some kind of really memorable player. If I recognize this while the ball is live, I'm going to sound the whistle to stop the game, but I'm probably going to double check with the table crew first before I penalize with a technical foul. In all cases the ball would be probably be dead when I make a decision to penalize with a technical foul. I'm not sure if I would blow the whistle, or not. I guess I have to have it happen to me in my game to figure out what I would do.

[mbyron]

When I wrote my post, I seem to recall thinking that the question concerned technical fouls called on players or bench personnel during the game. I blow my whistle for those.