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airpolgas Mon Oct 12, 2009 02:38pm
Backcourt Violation Technicality
 
I was taught this in my Basketball PE class more than 10 years ago by my school's basketball coach:

"In oder to establish yourself in the frontcourt, both your feet, and the ball, should cross the line."

He then proceeded to dribble the ball in the backcourt with both feet in the frontcourt, then stepped back in the backcourt. He said that was not a violation.

I showed the move yesterday to my buddies while waiting our turn in a pick-up game and they all cried violation.

Who's wrong? Who's right? Was I taught correctly by the coach, but the rule became outdated (remember, that was more than 10 years ago)?

Thank you.

mbyron Mon Oct 12, 2009 02:46pm
The coach is right about a dribbler. All other inbounds players are in the front court if they have something in the FC and nothing in the BC.

Vinski Mon Oct 12, 2009 03:00pm
Your coach was correct and the rule is the same today.

4-4-6
During a dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball is in the
frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the dribbler touch the court entirely in
the frontcourt.

Mark Padgett Mon Oct 12, 2009 04:39pm
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Originally Posted by airpolgas (Post 630468)
I showed the move yesterday to my buddies while waiting our turn in a pick-up game and they all cried violation.
They must all be coaches. ;)

Ref Ump Welsch Mon Oct 12, 2009 05:32pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 630500)
They must all be coaches. ;)
If they were running around like headless chickens while screaming "violation!", then that really would be true! :D

Mark Padgett Mon Oct 12, 2009 06:05pm
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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 630512)
If they were running around like headless chickens while screaming "violation!", then that really would be true! :D
Substitute "howler monkeys" for "headless chickens" and I think you've got it. :D

CoachP Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:23am
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Originally Posted by airpolgas (Post 630468)
I showed the move yesterday to my buddies while waiting our turn in a pick-up game and they all cried violation.
If the move took ten seconds to demonstrate, it would be a violation.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 630516)
Substitute "howler monkeys" for "headless chickens" and I think you've got it. :D
How about: howler monkeys running around like headless chickens :D

Adam Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by airpolgas (Post 630468)
I showed the move yesterday to my buddies while waiting our turn in a pick-up game and they all cried violation.
Your coach was right, but even if you showed the rule to your buddies, they wouldn't believe you because:
1) They saw it called a violation once in middle school, or
2) It should be a violation, therefore it must be in the rules that way.

Welpe Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:28pm
Snaqs, don't forget my favorite fanboy meme:

I don't care what the rule says, it's not fair and the referee should rule a violation anyways.

Mark Padgett Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 630626)
How about: howler monkeys running around like headless chickens :D
I had his game this weekend. :eek:

mbyron Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 630651)
Snaqs, don't forget my favorite fanboy meme:
Did you really use the word 'meme'? :eek:

Welpe Tue Oct 13, 2009 01:04pm
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 630655)
Did you really use the word 'meme'? :eek:
Yes...did I misuse it? :o

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Oct 13, 2009 01:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 630653)
I had his game this weekend. :eek:
Oy vey, how did I know that was coming???

Adam Tue Oct 13, 2009 01:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 630658)
Yes...did I misuse it? :o
Nope, you got it right, and Chuck Norris would be proud that you didn't get pwned. Now someone set us up the bomb.


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