Rec rules

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So, are you saying the no foul out applies only when a team is down to 5 players? Or does the star play all the time, regardless of his fouls? I personally don't like this one. Learning to play without fouling is an underrated skill.

Yes, only when the team gets down to five eligible players.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Yes, only when the team gets down to five eligible players.

So the last 5 standing finish the game, no matter how many more fouls they make get? One who fouled out earlier cannot come back in at this point?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So the last 5 standing finish the game, no matter how many more fouls they make get? One who fouled out earlier cannot come back in at this point?

That's correct.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So the last 5 standing finish the game, no matter how many more fouls they make get? One who fouled out earlier cannot come back in at this point?

So when there are only six eligible players left on a team, and the superstar, and the bench warmer, both have four fouls each, it would behoove the bench warmer to pick up his fifth foul before the superstar picks up his fifth. Coaches would figure out this loophole right away.

I don't like any rule set that allows players to continue playing after they have five fouls. I didn't like it when the Big East experimented with a six foul rule about fifteen years ago, and I don't like it now. This encourages rough play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So when there are only six eligible players left on a team, and the superstar, and the bench warmer, both have four fouls each, it would behoove the bench warmer to pick up his fifth foul before the superstar picks up his fifth. Coaches would figure out this loophole right away.

I don't like any rule set that allows players to continue playing after they have five fouls. I didn't like it when the Big East experimented with a six foul rule about fifteen years ago, and I don't like it now. This encourages rough play.

The loophole you mention is certainly real...and you make a very good point about it.

As for encouraging rough play, you could just make the additional fouls increasingly costly. In addition to the normal penalty for a foul give an automatic 2 points for the first bonus foul by any player, 4 for the next bonus foul for any player, etc.

I still don't like the idea but this increasing penalty would somewhat negate the value of allowing excessive fouling.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So when there are only six eligible players left on a team, and the superstar, and the bench warmer, both have four fouls each, it would behoove the bench warmer to pick up his fifth foul before the superstar picks up his fifth. Coaches would figure out this loophole right away.

Exactly what I was thinking.