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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 08:40am
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I am going to comment more on this topic at a later date but just to address your statement to pro players that he did a good job playing through the contact is not a good idea IMO. In fact I would say a lot of guys would say its a bad idea. There is a better likelihood that it will end up hurting you than helping you. Most the pro guys I know would say back to you something about it don't matter so just blow the damn whistle. I would only address the play if the player brings it up.
Perhaps... just like communication with the coaches (at any level) you gotta know who you're dealing with. Being my 3rd yr in the league, I know who I can/can't say those types of things to.

As a matter of fact, comments like that (to certain players/coaches) helps the game in some instances! Sometimes it diffuses the pushback when you feel it coming on.
Acknowledging non-verbal concerns of players/coaches is not ALWAYS a bad thing. Why not resolve the situation before it blows up? Another part of GM skills.

I guess one would have to have a "feel" for the game to do those types of things successfully
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 10:18am
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Perhaps... just like communication with the coaches (at any level) you gotta know who you're dealing with. Being my 3rd yr in the league, I know who I can/can't say those types of things to.

As a matter of fact, comments like that (to certain players/coaches) helps the game in some instances! Sometimes it diffuses the pushback when you feel it coming on.
Acknowledging non-verbal concerns of players/coaches is not ALWAYS a bad thing. Why not resolve the situation before it blows up? Another part of GM skills.

I guess one would have to have a "feel" for the game to do those types of things successfully
I agree with you on your points but players don't discern contact like we officials do so as I said previously I don't see how telling a player, even if you are attempting to thwart his non verbal reaction to the play, that he did well playing through the contact will aid you in the long term cause I am not only telling you but I promise you it will bite you. But sometimes as a young official you have to get bit before he truly takes hold. I definitely know that and am still learning that but I have also learned to listen a little more often to my more experienced partners so that I don't have to get bit. Would you mind me asking how old you are? You just sound a lot like I did in my early years of officiating. Heck im still in my early years!
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 11:12am
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2nd season W-college summer league

A grown man in birth years, but still a baby in officiating years. Although working Jan-Dec increases my experience level a bit more than what those numbers suggest.

I value what you say, thanks!
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 03:06pm
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Early 30s (wish I got started sooner)
4th season HS
3rd season Pro-AM
2nd season W-college summer league

A grown man in birth years, but still a baby in officiating years. Although working Jan-Dec increases my experience level a bit more than what those numbers suggest.

I value what you say, thanks!
That's all great stuff. Keep trying different things and integrate the successful ones into your own unique style. You can do things that many others cannot, and there are things that a lot of others can do that won't work for you. Most here would disagree with some of your GM philosophies and "personality" on the court, but if you can harness that charisma and use it effectively, you have an insanely powerful tool at your disposal. I think it's great.
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 04:55pm
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That sounds great, but I still would not listen to players as the judgment of my officiating ability. And I certainly would not listen to "has beens" either. They think they know more than you because they played most of their life. You have a job to do, do it and do not worry about what the players think. JMHO

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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 06:22am
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that sounds great, but i still would not listen to players as the judgment of my officiating ability. And i certainly would not listen to "has beens" either. They think they know more than you because they played most of their life. You have a job to do, do it and do not worry about what the players think. Jmho

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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 07:41am
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That sounds great, but I still would not listen to players as the judgment of my officiating ability. And I certainly would not listen to "has beens" either. They think they know more than you because they played most of their life...
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