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walter Thu May 28, 2009 07:58pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 605266)
This is completely and utterly absurd.

Agreed but the man from the state association was quite adamant about it! He went on and on about it being a point of emphasis for the state from initial interpretation meeting on. Personally I think the guy is a jerk but...

Camron Rust Thu May 28, 2009 11:42pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 605215)
But understand the spirit of the rule and why it was written -- to prevent confusion. (i.e. undershirts of one team are similar in color to their opponents uniform)

Is white or yellow similar enough to gold that it will not cause confusion? Yes.


Given that the home team is required to wear white, that would mean that a white undershirt under a gold uniform (implictly the visiting team) IS a similar color to the opponents uniform and therefore not acceptable.

Even if the home team is not wearing white, it is not close enough for a "gold" uniform unless it is a really pale gold.

rockyroad Fri May 29, 2009 11:18am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 605349)
Given that the home team is required to wear white, that would mean that a white undershirt under a gold uniform (implictly the visiting team) IS a similar color to the opponents uniform and therefore not acceptable.

Even if the home team is not wearing white, it is not close enough for a "gold" uniform unless it is a really pale gold.

So if it's a really pale gold you will let them wear the white t-shirt, but if it's just sort of pale gold then you won't let them wear the white
t-shirt? :confused:

It's that kind of hair-splitting that (I believe) Brad is decrying here.

Adam Fri May 29, 2009 11:44am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 605470)
It's that kind of hair-splitting that (I believe) Brad is decrying here.

Wait a second! The hair has to match, too?

Mark Padgett Fri May 29, 2009 11:49am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 605476)
Wait a second! The hair has to match, too?

Yes. If they are wearing green uniforms, it helps if they are aliens. Or if they're from Iowa.

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rockyroad Fri May 29, 2009 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 605476)
Wait a second! The hair has to match, too?

Sigh...I don't even know what to say to you anymore.:D

Adam Fri May 29, 2009 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 605479)
Yes. If they are wearing green uniforms, it helps if they are aliens. Or if they're from Iowa.

Wow, I'm glad I got out of there in time.

Adam Fri May 29, 2009 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 605490)
Sigh...I don't even know what to say to you anymore.:D

If only Jurassic were here to see you've been made speechless....
:)

Ref Ump Welsch Fri May 29, 2009 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 605479)
Yes. If they are wearing green uniforms, it helps if they are aliens. Or if they're from Iowa.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__GRSmxq46O...ir%2Bstars.jpg

That boy is definitely not from western Iowa. You wouldn't catch any grass-headed idiots in those parts, and I should know because I teach in that part of the state. :D

Mark Padgett Fri May 29, 2009 01:23pm

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 605512)
That boy is definitely not from western Iowa. You wouldn't catch any grass-headed idiots in those parts, and I should know because I teach in that part of the state. :D

So...all the grass-headed idiots are in eastern Iowa? That must make for some fun games.

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Adam Fri May 29, 2009 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 605515)
So...all the grass-headed idiots are in eastern Iowa? That must make for some fun games.

Nah, we shipped them all to Portland back in '03.

rsl Fri May 29, 2009 02:37pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 605476)
Wait a second! The hair has to match, too?

Reminds me of an intramural team in college from the asian student association. They intentionally wore no numbers on front and completely identical black shirts, black shoes, black shorts and black headbands. They knew it could be difficult to tell asians apart and were trying to make it hard to pick up your man in a man defense. It actually worked, to an extent, but it didn't overcome the height disadvantage they had. :)

Mark Padgett Fri May 29, 2009 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 605521)
Nah, we shipped them all to Portland back in '03.

So that's where all those coaches came from! That explains a lot. :p

Texas Aggie Fri May 29, 2009 03:56pm

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My problem is the lack of consistency.
My problem is coaches that don't care about what the rule is and 1) make the official enforce it and 2) get mad when the official(s) enforce (or fail to enforce) it in a way they don't like.

If you are bothered by inconsistent enforcement, the answer is simple: don't let your players wear illegal undershirts. Tell coaches that do that you don't appreciate that and that you expect them to honor the rule. You are just as responsible as we are for making sure the rules are followed, especially when you have total control over the situation.

BillyMac Fri May 29, 2009 05:48pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 605479)

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