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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 09:10am
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That's fine if they want their schedule messed up, because the game isn't continuing till we get a new score keeper.
Around here there is a better chance that the referee would be replaced.
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 09:12am
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Around here there is a better chance that the referee would be replaced.
If this ever happened to me, I wouldn't say Boo!!!
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 10:57am
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If this ever happened to me, I wouldn't say Boo!!!
That's pretty good...an AAU event in Hampton Roads...and you say "Boo". I'm in stitches
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 01:13pm
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If this ever happened to me, I wouldn't say Boo!!!
I surely wouldn't say Boo either. He is paying me for the games I completed though.
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 10:38am
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Around here there is a better chance that the referee would be replaced.
Would I still get paid?



There is a high school AD in a league where I work who takes it upon himself to just change the rules to fit all of the games in before the scheduled varsity tip off. Typically they have a FG game and FB game scheduled 45 (!!!) minutes apart. Then a JVB game an hour after the FB game and then the Varsity an hour after the JVB. He will attempt to change the amount of TO's a team has, go to running time despite the score, change the amount of time in the quarter, limit the use of TO's. And boy is there hell if you question him on it. Needless to say, I don't work there any more.
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 11:01am
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There is a high school AD in a league where I work who takes it upon himself to just change the rules to fit all of the games in before the scheduled varsity tip off. Typically they have a FG game and FB game scheduled 45 (!!!) minutes apart. Then a JVB game an hour after the FB game and then the Varsity an hour after the JVB. He will attempt to change the amount of TO's a team has, go to running time despite the score, change the amount of time in the quarter, limit the use of TO's. And boy is there hell if you question him on it. Needless to say, I don't work there any more.
Sounds like this AD has a bright future in politics

If he were making the games last longer that's one thing, but I could care less about shortening a game (increases my hourly rate).
The rule changes he makes sounds as if they favor the officials. Where is this school & how can I get down

I treat those situations just like the clock operator:
"Sir/Ma'am don't let it bother you if you forget or are slow to stop the clock, but please don't forget to start it".
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 12:45pm
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All this drama is the very reason I limit my AAU experiences (outside of camps) to zero.

I complete waste of time and this is why.

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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 04:18pm
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Old Mon May 18, 2009, 04:51pm
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 08:33pm
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All this drama is the very reason I limit my AAU experiences (outside of camps) to zero.

I complete waste of time and this is why.

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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 09:25pm
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My AAU and YBOA war experiences.

Most of you know that I have officiated in a number of AAU and YBOA national (both boys' and girls') tournaments over the years. I have also officiated in a number of Michigan, Lake Erie, and Ohio AAU association national qualifying (boys' and girls') tournaments (For those of you not familiar with AAU, the country is divided into associations and those associations hold national qualifying tournaments) and YBOA/Ohio State Tournaments (state tournaments are the national qualifying tournaments) over the years.

I have officiated in the aformentioned tournaments that have had great tournament and site directors and in tournaments that have had idiots for tournament and site directors.

Experience No. 1/1994 AAU Girls' 18U National Tournament: I replaced the Official Scorer in a game in the because he started telling me that I couldn't eject a player for throwing an elbow at an opponent's jaw. He told me that he knew the rules because he was (at the time) for Colgate Univ.'s men's team (he really did play for Colgate).

Experience No. 2/1995 Ohio AAU Girls' 18U National Qualifying Tournament: My partner had called a TF on a substitute for unsportsmanlike conduct. My partner correctly instructed the Scorer to count the TF toward the substitute's two TF's and five PF/TF's and the substitute's team's seven and ten fouls for the half. The tournament's officials assigner tried to tell the scorer not to count the TF because the game was not being played using H.S. rules (he was correct on the point (the tournament was being played using NCAA Women's Rules). He was so adamant that I had to threaten him with removal from the game site if he did not cease and desist. He later apologized and admited that I was correct after he had read the NCAA Rules.

I have more war stories about which I could write but this post is already too long.

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Most of you know that I have officiated in a number of AAU and YBOA national (both boys' and girls') tournaments over the years. I have also officiated in a number of Michigan, Lake Erie, and Ohio AAU association national qualifying (boys' and girls') tournaments (For those of you not familiar with AAU, the country is divided into associations and those associations hold national qualifying tournaments) and YBOA/Ohio State Tournaments (state tournaments are the national qualifying tournaments) over the years.

I have officiated in the aformentioned tournaments that have had great tournament and site directors and in tournaments that have had idiots for tournament and site directors.

Experience No. 1/1994 AAU Girls' 18U National Tournament: I replaced the Official Scorer in a game in the because he started telling me that I couldn't eject a player for throwing an elbow at an opponent's jaw. He told me that he knew the rules because he was (at the time) for Colgate Univ.'s men's team (he really did play for Colgate).

Experience No. 2/1995 Ohio AAU Girls' 18U National Qualifying Tournament: My partner had called a TF on a substitute for unsportsmanlike conduct. My partner correctly instructed the Scorer to count the TF toward the substitute's two TF's and five PF/TF's and the substitute's team's seven and ten fouls for the half. The tournament's officials assigner tried to tell the scorer not to count the TF because the game was not being played using H.S. rules (he was correct on the point (the tournament was being played using NCAA Women's Rules). He was so adamant that I had to threaten him with removal from the game site if he did not cease and desist. He later apologized and admited that I was correct after he had read the NCAA Rules.

I have more war stories about which I could write but this post is already too long.

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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 01:58pm
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Most of you know that I have officiated in a number of AAU and YBOA national (both boys' and girls') tournaments over the years. I have also officiated in a number of Michigan, Lake Erie, and Ohio AAU association national qualifying (boys' and girls') tournaments (For those of you not familiar with AAU, the country is divided into associations and those associations hold national qualifying tournaments) and YBOA/Ohio State Tournaments (state tournaments are the national qualifying tournaments) over the years.

I have officiated in the aformentioned tournaments that have had great tournament and site directors and in tournaments that have had idiots for tournament and site directors.

Experience No. 1/1994 AAU Girls' 18U National Tournament: I replaced the Official Scorer in a game in the because he started telling me that I couldn't eject a player for throwing an elbow at an opponent's jaw. He told me that he knew the rules because he was (at the time) for Colgate Univ.'s men's team (he really did play for Colgate).

Experience No. 2/1995 Ohio AAU Girls' 18U National Qualifying Tournament: My partner had called a TF on a substitute for unsportsmanlike conduct. My partner correctly instructed the Scorer to count the TF toward the substitute's two TF's and five PF/TF's and the substitute's team's seven and ten fouls for the half. The tournament's officials assigner tried to tell the scorer not to count the TF because the game was not being played using H.S. rules (he was correct on the point (the tournament was being played using NCAA Women's Rules). He was so adamant that I had to threaten him with removal from the game site if he did not cease and desist. He later apologized and admited that I was correct after he had read the NCAA Rules.

I have more war stories about which I could write but this post is already too long.

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Old Fri May 22, 2009, 10:05pm
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I was on the game with you I'm glad the consensus was that we handles it correctly. When I saw the thread title, I thought, "Hmm, I wonder if that's the same site director I had problems with?"
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