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mbyron Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:18am

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Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 597028)
I just can't see including meals between work and the game. I don't think the code allows that but maybe I'm mistaken.

I always think it's a successful year if I end up in positive territory.

-Josh

Why wouldn't the code allow such meals? They're allowed for business travel out of town (within limits).

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:30am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 597012)
I've done that. A percentage of my bill in the months I actually officiate. As well as my internet bill (COX cable).

I do that as well...still...what else am I missing? :confused:

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:32am

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Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 597028)
I just can't see including meals between work and the game. I don't think the code allows that but maybe I'm mistaken.

I always think it's a successful year if I end up in positive territory.

-Josh

Josh,

I do this a lot, especially during football and basketball season. I'll grab something for the ride to the game or the ride home after the game (depending on what little town I'm headed to in Nebraska or Iowa), and keep the receipt.

jdmara Tue Apr 21, 2009 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 597038)
Why wouldn't the code allow such meals? They're allowed for business travel out of town (within limits).

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 597043)
Josh,

I do this a lot, especially during football and basketball season. I'll grab something for the ride to the game or the ride home after the game (depending on what little town I'm headed to in Nebraska or Iowa), and keep the receipt.

I'm all for it because, as you gentleman know, it's a practice I believe most of us do rushing from work to games. I've never been able to justify it to my satisfaction but I'm definitely a tax novice at best. I will definitely start keeping my receipts from this point forward.

-Josh

tballump Wed Apr 22, 2009 07:47pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 596865)
I've asked my tax pro about those along with estimated payments and she has told me not to worry about them. Your mileage may vary.

Concerning the State and Local does this mean I just report it all at the end of the year rather than quarterly?

Drizzle Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 597038)
Why wouldn't the code allow such meals? They're allowed for business travel out of town (within limits).

Publication 463 (2008), Travel, Entertainment, Gift, and Car Expenses

From what I can understand, unless you're traveling so far where you need a place to sleep, you cannot deduct meals. I'm not a tax professional, though.

just another ref Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by Drizzle (Post 597349)
Publication 463 (2008), Travel, Entertainment, Gift, and Car Expenses

From what I can understand, unless you're traveling so far where you need a place to sleep, you cannot deduct meals. I'm not a tax professional, though.

You can deduct the cost of meals in either of the following situations.

*

It is necessary for you to stop for substantial sleep or rest to properly perform your duties while traveling away from home on business.
*

The meal is business-related entertainment.





Which at the high school level is, basically, never.

Ref Ump Welsch Thu Apr 23, 2009 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by Drizzle (Post 597349)
Publication 463 (2008), Travel, Entertainment, Gift, and Car Expenses

From what I can understand, unless you're traveling so far where you need a place to sleep, you cannot deduct meals. I'm not a tax professional, though.

This isn't the only situation listed. There's another one. But if you read the entire publication, it does appear as long as the meal was not extravagent or horribly expensive, and you are away from home long enough that it is impossible to eat a meal at home, it can be a business expense.

An example: an all-day business trip I took on behalf of my employer. It was a 2 1/2 hour drive one way, and I had breakfast before I left, and arrived back well before supper, so the employer reimbursed me for lunch because I was still on the road for lunch time.

I understand the same logic applies to meals when doing officiating. Since we normally leave at 3:30 or 4:00 for a long road trip to do a football game and sometimes don't arrive till midnight, dinner would be a business expense because we are not eating at home.

Mark Padgett Thu Apr 23, 2009 02:56pm

I save a lot of money each year on my taxes because I list Bambi on them. She comes under the category of "Monkey Business Deduction". :rolleyes:

WhistlesAndStripes Fri Apr 24, 2009 09:25am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 597486)
I save a lot of money each year on my taxes because I list Bambi on them. She comes under the category of "Monkey Business Deduction". :rolleyes:

A dentist in my local area was recently convicted of tax evasion. Among the improper deductions listed in the newspaper that he took included expenses incurred at some Brothels in Nevada. He claimed those expenses as "professional education."

Ref Ump Welsch Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 597595)
A dentist in my local area was recently convicted of tax evasion. Among the improper deductions listed in the newspaper that he took included expenses incurred at some Brothels in Nevada. He claimed those expenses as "professional education."

The problem is the IRS and the U.S. Attorneys office didn't buy the arguement that a certain sex act leaves bruises in the "escort's" mouth and the dentist was researching that. I know that bruises are an after-effect of a certain sex act because it was an out-of-the-blue comment made by a dental hygiene instructor where I teach at. :D


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