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just another ref Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:47pm

Just like the men.......
 
I was watching the baseball game tonight and they cut in to show the end of the first women's semifinal. On the last second shot there was a travel you could see from the parking lot.

JRutledge Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:01am

I thought you were going to be upset that Courtney Paris is going to have to give back her scholarship.

Peace

just another ref Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:06am

None of the men would be crazy enough to make a promise like that..............

and then really crazy enough to keep it, which she said she intends to do.

We'll see.

just another ref Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:07am

This could be the inspiration for a new signature line:

"Not a dime back."

Jim Calhoun

Juulie Downs Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:39am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594231)
I was watching the baseball game tonight and they cut in to show the end of the first women's semifinal. On the last second shot there was a travel you could see from the parking lot.

That one wasn't nearly as bad as the one they missed in the first few minutes of the game. It was at least 4 steps, maybe 5. I wouldn't have signalled travel, I'd have signalled marathon.

JugglingReferee Mon Apr 06, 2009 04:33am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594233)
None of the men would be crazy enough to make a promise like that..............

and then really crazy enough to keep it, which she said she intends to do.

We'll see.

I thought it was a crazy promise to make as well. It reminds me of Celebrity Apprentice Sunday night. One woman volunteered to support Melissa Rivers, her product manager by going back into the boardroom. Just by doing that, Trump fired her. "Never volunteer for execution."

mbyron Mon Apr 06, 2009 06:13am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594233)
None of the men would be crazy enough to make a promise like that..............

and then really crazy enough to keep it, which she said she intends to do.

We'll see.

If she gives back her scholarship, they'll probably just give her a different one. :rolleyes:

Nevadaref Mon Apr 06, 2009 06:32am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594231)
I was watching the baseball game tonight and they cut in to show the end of the first women's semifinal. On the last second shot there was a travel you could see from the parking lot.

I'm not sure that is a true statement.

She took a bunch of quick, choppy steps just prior to receiving the pass, but once she caught the ball she may have had only one foot one the floor and then executed a good jump stop by jumping off of that foot and landing on two followed by going up for the try.

I haven't seen it is slow motion and picked it apart yet though.
It looked odd, but I'm not convinced that it was illegal.

just another ref Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:36am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 594252)
I'm not sure that is a true statement.

She took a bunch of quick, choppy steps just prior to receiving the pass, but once she caught the ball she may have had only one foot one the floor and then executed a good jump stop by jumping off of that foot and landing on two followed by going up for the try.

I haven't seen it is slow motion and picked it apart yet though.
It looked odd, but I'm not convinced that it was illegal.


She received the ball with at least the right foot, possibly both feet, on the floor.
She stepped out with the left foot, then hopped and landed on both feet.
Almost brought me up out of my chair.

referee99 Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:52am

Paris 'give back' prediction:
 
Post graduation, after signing pro contract, setting up a scholarship program to the school in the 'amount' of her scholarship.

ps. obviously the girls' dad was a large man, but I met their mom once -- she looked like she could suit up and play at a high level.

refguy Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594330)
She received the ball with at least the right foot, possibly both feet, on the floor.
She stepped out with the left foot, then hopped and landed on both feet.
Almost brought me up out of my chair.

Exactly. Legal move at all levels. Jumped off one foot, landed on two and released the try.
Those officials would have been absolutely killed in post game if it went in, not because of that great no call, but because the rebounder stepped out of bounds before making the outlet pass.

Camron Rust Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by refguy (Post 594350)
Exactly. Legal move at all levels. Jumped off one foot, landed on two and released the try.
Those officials would have been absolutely killed in post game if it went in, not because of that great no call, but because the rebounder stepped out of bounds before making the outlet pass.

Not as I read what was written...
  1. Caught it with one or both feet on the floor.
  2. Steps with one foot (which establishes the pivot foot).
  3. Hops (ok so far)
  4. Lands on both
THe player is OK to #3, but since the pivot was established by the step in #2, a player can no longer execute a jump stop at all. Travel when either foot lands after #3.

If #2 happened to also be OOB, that is a different issue.

tjones1 Mon Apr 06, 2009 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 594232)
I thought you were going to be upset that Courtney Paris is going to have to give back her scholarship.

Peace

I was wondering what the heck they were talking about when they were interviewing her. Obviously, I figured she made some kind of guarantee but I couldn't figure out the somewhat odd ball figure of $60,000.

refguy Mon Apr 06, 2009 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 594375)
I was wondering what the heck they were talking about when they were interviewing her. Obviously, I figured she made some kind of guarantee but I couldn't figure out the somewhat odd ball figure of $60,000.

$16,000 a year for 4 years was the amount of her scholarship.

refguy Mon Apr 06, 2009 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 594361)
Not as I read what was written...
  1. Caught it with one or both feet on the floor.
  2. Steps with one foot (which establishes the pivot foot).
  3. Hops (ok so far)
  4. Lands on both
THe player is OK to #3, but since the pivot was established by the step in #2, a player can no longer execute a jump stop at all. Travel when either foot lands after #3.

If #2 happened to also be OOB, that is a different issue.

I really wasn't reading what was written - sorry. I was going on what actually happened as I watched it. I saw it back at least 5 times and it was legal. The out of bounds was a whole other story. I was also a little surprised to see the other crew not on this game.

grunewar Mon Apr 06, 2009 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 594238)
That one wasn't nearly as bad as the one they missed in the first few minutes of the game. It was at least 4 steps, maybe 5. I wouldn't have signalled travel, I'd have signalled marathon.

We discussed it last night in the Chat Room.

And, Juulie's right, the travel in the first half was so long it made Lebron's crab dribble look like a short stroll........

PS - Join us in the Chat Room tonight and tomorrow to discuss the championship games real time......

Juulie Downs Mon Apr 06, 2009 02:49pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 594420)
We discussed it last night in the Chat Room.

And, Juulie's right, the travel in the first half was so long it made Lebron's crab dribble look like a short stroll........

PS - Join us in the Chat Room tonight and tomorrow to discuss the championship games real time......

Yea, we had some pretty interesting stuff to talk about, at least in the first game last night, and good discussions. Although it was pretty depressing to see Stanford get beaten so badly.

Camron Rust Mon Apr 06, 2009 04:36pm

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Originally Posted by refguy (Post 594412)
I really wasn't reading what was written - sorry. I was going on what actually happened as I watched it.

Reading what you're agreeing to is usually a good idea.

Mind if I send you some documents to sign? ;)

grunewar Mon Apr 06, 2009 08:09pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 594471)
Mind if I send you some documents to sign? ;)

Said Radar to Colonel Blake!

w_sohl Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:55pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594233)
None of the men would be crazy enough to make a promise like that..............

and then really crazy enough to keep it, which she said she intends to do.

We'll see.


Not a big deal for her to pay her scholarship back, her dad is former NFL player Bubba Paris. He cut the check the other night.

just another ref Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:18am

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Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 594548)
Not a big deal for her to pay her scholarship back, her dad is former NFL player Bubba Paris. He cut the check the other night.

Doesn't have quite the same ring:

If we don't win it all, my daddy will pay my scholarship back.

Raymond Tue Apr 07, 2009 07:40am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 594551)
Doesn't have quite the same ring:

If we don't win it all, my daddy will pay my scholarship back.


I thought that was assumed from the minute she made the promise.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Apr 07, 2009 08:31am

Of course, with her degree (if she's actually completing it) and potential earnings, she could pay her dad back with no interest.

radiomouth Tue Apr 07, 2009 09:06am

Not sure this observation fits here, but, here it is.
I know it catches your ear when an announcer calls a "reaching in" foul or an "over the back" foul.
I fell out of my chair last night when the announcer called Hansbrough for a " Lower body root canal". Don't think that one is in the rule book. Any image of the signal for that infraction?

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:41am

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Originally Posted by radiomouth (Post 594596)
Not sure this observation fits here, but, here it is.
I know it catches your ear when an announcer calls a "reaching in" foul or an "over the back" foul.
I fell out of my chair last night when the announcer called Hansbrough for a " Lower body root canal". Don't think that one is in the rule book. Any image of the signal for that infraction?

Like I tell my students learning American Sign Language when it comes to descriptions...what does it look like? Now I think I opened the floodgates of pervertedness! :eek:


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