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CK Tue Mar 17, 2009 07:38pm

Sub on injured player
 
A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. A1 is injured and the coach is beckoned onto the court. Before A1 is replaced, B calls a time out and is granted the TO. (Don't ask me why B called a TO):eek: Now the question, since the clock has not started, can A call a successive TO to buy A1 back into the game, at this point. The rule book seems to inclinate to yes, however I cannot find a case play that supports this.

Thank You in advance

CK

Lotto Tue Mar 17, 2009 07:48pm

There's no rule that prohibits this---it's perfectly legal.

There is a relevant approved ruling in the NCAA casebook---I don't know about NFHS:

A.R. 53. A1 is injured and the referee beckons the coach and/or athletic trainer onto the playing court to assist the injured player. After the injured player is replaced, Team B requests and is granted a timeout. Play is about to resume and A1 is back on the playing court.
RULING: A1 shall be prohibited from staying on the playing court. Team B’s timeout does not make A1 eligible to return to play. Team A must request and be granted a charged timeout in order for A1 to remain in the game. (Rule 3-4.16)

JugglingReferee Tue Mar 17, 2009 07:49pm

Yes; A can buy back in A1 with a timeout - that happens to be successive.

Nevadaref Tue Mar 17, 2009 07:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK (Post 589106)
A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. A1 is injured and the coach is beckoned onto the court. Before A1 is replaced, B calls a time out and is granted the TO. (Don't ask me why B called a TO):eek: Now the question, since the clock has not started, can A call a successive TO to buy A1 back into the game, at this point. The rule book seems to inclinate to yes, however I cannot find a case play that supports this.

Thank You in advance

CK

First of all, the time-out to team B should not be granted while there is a replacement of an injured player pending. That was a mistake by the officials.

That said, there is no prohibition on successive time-outs unless time has expired in the 4th quarter or an extra period.

PS Don't use the phrase "buy back into the game" because he never left the game. Use "keep in the game."

CK Tue Mar 17, 2009 08:17pm

Thanks Nevada, that official was me. 5-8-2a Note. Hopefully, I won't make that mistake again!

Thanks again

CK

P.S. I will use "keep in the game" , thank you.

181174 Wed Mar 18, 2009 09:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotto (Post 589107)
There's no rule that prohibits this---it's perfectly legal.

There is a relevant approved ruling in the NCAA casebook---I don't know about NFHS:

A.R. 53. A1 is injured and the referee beckons the coach and/or athletic trainer onto the playing court to assist the injured player. After the injured player is replaced, Team B requests and is granted a timeout. Play is about to resume and A1 is back on the playing court.
RULING: A1 shall be prohibited from staying on the playing court. Team B’s timeout does not make A1 eligible to return to play. Team A must request and be granted a charged timeout in order for A1 to remain in the game. (Rule 3-4.16)


I was wondering about this, so this is the same as blood on the uniform, if the team of the injured player takes a timeout and the player can recover enough to reenter the game after the timeout they can stay in the game. Now if team A subs for the injured player and then still takes a time-out, the injured player can't re-enter until time has gone off the clock. If the player is injured at 6:06 in the 2nd quarter, he/she couldn't reenter until at least 6:05 left in the 2nd quarter. Is this correct?

Adam Wed Mar 18, 2009 09:25am

That is correct. No timeout is granted to the other team until the injury replacement is resolved with either a TO or sub.

If both teams have an injury, and want to keep their players in, both must burn a TO to do so. The TOs are run simultaneously.


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