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fullor30 Mon Mar 16, 2009 02:46pm

Anybody see this?
 
Can't recall the teams this weekend, probably big ten tourney.

Bang, bang out of bounds play. Hightower dramatically as leads sells call that we are now going the other way. Center comes in and has his hands on Ed's hips with his head bowed, never making eye contact as he tells Hightower what he saw. Ed is seemingly glaring at him. Ed changes his call.

Center looked a 14 year kid fessing up to his father that he snuck the car out for spin. You had to see it, pretty funny.

"Ed....ahh,ahh, eerrr, eerr, I, I, I'm sure it's blue ball."

It of course was the right call, just was a funny scene as the camera had a tight shot of them both.

Nevadaref Mon Mar 16, 2009 06:27pm

That is exactly why I don't care for Ed's over-demonstrative mechanics. They certainly don't make his calls any more correct.

They only make it difficult for a partner to provide help after he has emphatically signaled forty-seven times in one direction.

fullor30 Mon Mar 16, 2009 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 588826)
That is exactly why I don't care for Ed's over-demonstrative mechanics. They certainly don't make his calls any more correct.

They only make it difficult for a partner to provide help after he has emphatically signaled forty-seven times in one direction.


He was not happy he changed his call, but it clearly was the correct one.

We get the Big Ten network here and they have classic games on. Currently Wake Forest Illinois from 2004 is running, Steve Welmer, Ted Hillary and Hightower who looks about 20 pounds lighter.

HawkeyeCubP Mon Mar 16, 2009 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by nevadaref (Post 588826)
they only make it difficult for a partner to provide help after he has emphatically signaled forty-seven times in one direction.

Funny. Wife and I watched a couple of these games, and it's interesting to hear her chuckle outloud at some of his displays.

JugglingReferee Mon Mar 16, 2009 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 588826)
That is exactly why I don't care for Ed's over-demonstrative mechanics. They certainly don't make his calls any more correct.

They only make it difficult for a partner to provide help after he has emphatically signaled forty-seven times in one direction.

Agreed a hunert %. I've seen guys at all levels be over-demonstrative and it has always come back to bite them. IMO, he's well past confident and into the cockiness area.

fullor30 Tue Mar 17, 2009 06:59am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 588867)
Agreed a hunert %. I've seen guys at all levels be over-demonstrative and it has always come back to bite them. IMO, he's well past confident and into the cockiness area.

I was at a great sectional final game this past weekend that was as dramatic as you can get, packed gym, lead swings and a last second shot from half court for the win. I barely noticed the refs as they were three of the best in the State. That's the way it should be.

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:58am

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 588856)
Funny. Wife and I watched a couple of these games, and it's interesting to hear her chuckle outloud at some of his displays.

If she chuckled at that, have her look at the photoshop thread on this board. She'll be guffawing! :D

LDUB Tue Mar 17, 2009 05:03pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 588911)
I barely noticed the refs as they were three of the best in the State. That's the way it should be.

No, that is not the way it should be. The officials should do their job's properly; many times that includes taking actions which makes one's self standout. Saying that a good officiated game is one where the officials aren't noticed is a myth spread by fanboys.

Adam Tue Mar 17, 2009 06:21pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 589073)
No, that is not the way it should be. The officials should do their job's properly; many times that includes taking actions which makes one's self standout. Saying that a good officiated game is one where the officials aren't noticed is a myth spread by fanboys.

Bingo! We have a winner!

JugglingReferee Tue Mar 17, 2009 06:25pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 589073)
No, that is not the way it should be. The officials should do their job's properly; many times that includes taking actions which makes one's self standout. Saying that a good officiated game is one where the officials aren't noticed is a myth spread by fanboys.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 589093)
Bingo! We have a winner!

Coaches often say this.

It's like anything - it depends; sometimes an in-your-face ref does a good job and there was reason to be like that. Sometimes there was no reason or a bad job was done.


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