Uconn vs Syracuse
 

End of regulation, 1.4 seconds remain. Syracuse inbounding on uconn endline.
Thabett covering throw-in, he runs over Syracuse screen. No call!! Can you believe it? A short time before this Thabett lowers shoulder and knocks over Syracuse defender. No call! What about the time-out Thabett called? He got posession on his belly, rolls over on his back and calls time-out.. Is this not a travel? What about the Syracuse break away and Syracuse player trailing knocks Uconn defender off his feet. Again no call!!!!! Any coments???

Didn't think the contact on the foul was a throw-in.

Didn't see the timeout rollover play.

Thought there should have been a foul on the moving screen on the breakaway.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...oting-fts.html

Today is Friday the 13th, and Sunday is the Ides of March, is this like a fanboy full moon? Does it cause normal people to turn into fanboys?

As for my comments:
Didn't see it, but just because the defender is knocked down while setting a screen DOES NOT make it a foul. If he played through the defender, then maybe. But just because the screener fell (possibly hard) does not make it a foul

Lowering of the shoulder is nowhere illegal. Check the book.

The time-out, I think was not called by Thabeet,but rather by his teammates, and therefore he was granted the timeout before he rolled over. Maybe not, but it's what it looked like to me.

No way this was a foul. The contact was not from behind, it was from the side while both were executing legal moving screens.

Just curious as to why? Did you think the contact was from behind?

No, I think it was a good no call. But Thabett mowed over and through the Syracuse screener at the end of regulation..

Two big time DQ-ing fouls in the 4th OT, but both easy/good calls I thought. One PC and another during rebounding action, but like I said, both pretty obvious.

Either way, this is one heck of a game, though Jamie Luckie must be a terrible official like everyone says. What kind of official would let a game go 4 OTs?!?!?!:p

All I know is so far, we have 4 OT's. I guess Padgett isn't working this one

Take that back, 5 OTs!

Great no-call at the end of the 4th OT. Syracuse was really wanting a foul but they just missed the layup then got swatted.

I was thinking Padgett is going to wake up and accidently turn on the TV... and think he has having his worst nightmare!

What a great game (officiating as well as players!)

Great PC call by the C against Syracuse there.

I've really been impressed by all 3 of these officials. Really great game called (I know I just said it but they are really on top of their game... 5th overtime...

Do Division 1 officials get overtime pay? lol

I've been watching since the opening tip 4 somethin hours ago.
An epic game!

Great job by the officials to get the call right at the end of regulation (devendorf's winning 3 that really wasn't).
These guys have done a superb job considering they've been on the floor for a 65 minute game....and counting.


FWIW, I thought Thabeet traveled when he rolled over to call the TO, but then again I'm a SU grad with a huge roooting interest here.

6 OT's

This may become a battle of walk-ons :eek:

Terrific game! If 'Cuse could make an effing layup, they'd have won after 4 OTs.

Padgett would have called that foul at the end of the 4th OT to end this brutality.

This may bring on the Recruits for next year!

'Cuse hadn't led in extra innings, now they're up 5 with 3 left. Both teams just look exhausted. Isn't it after 1:00 out there?

Wow! Missed dunk, offensive rebound, "and one."

I think it already has become one :eek:

Looks like I'll be calling into work in the morning. :)

Wow! He!! of a game.

I think Padgett would of counted the basketball at the end of the 2nd half!

Good point, there wouldn't have been anything after that.

Padgett wouldn't even have needed to do that. After dealing with coaches for years, I'm sure he knows that all he needed to do was call some more "reaches" and "over the backs" to get guys at the FT line more often. C'mon guys, it's called preventative officiating!

I don't believe that he was one of the officials.

Officials: John Cahill ,James Breeding ,Bob Donato

Wow, what a game!

I am told the reason we didn't hear from Padgett is he was curled up in a ball in the corner of his den in a cold sweat repeating, "T O O N, T O O N!"

(See "The Shining", R E D R U M.) ;)

That is not what happened.

The UConn defender was chasing, he was not setting a screen.

The Syracuse teammate was running beside the defender and turned left into him. I would compare it to walking beside a swimming pool with a friend and deciding to knock him in.

Jamie Luckie was not working the game. He's working the ACC Tournament.

Highlights...

YouTube - SYRACUSE VS CONNECTICUT UNBELIEVEABLE GAME!!!!!!! 6 OVERTIMES! [March 12, 2009]

All I watched on ESPN this morning were highlights of that game.

You sir, are 100% correct. Don't know why I thought Luckie was working. Perhaps because I saw him work the Miami-VT game earlier in the day.

What I'm impressed with is that Bobby Donato has to be at least 66 or 67 years old.

He's 110.

Does that make him older or younger than MTD Sr.?

I read this on anothe rboard.

"I told my son about it going to six OTs this morning and he said "Someone at Buffalo Wild Wings must have kept asking the bartender for another OT!" :D

Did we see the Syracuse guy catch with one foot on the 3 point line and dunk without a dribble?

This thread has to be 5 stars just because of the content. It also might drive the curiosity of someone.;)

LOL!! Thanks for sharing, Tony...

Classic!

I saw the play, and the announcers questioned it. It looked to me like it was close, but he may have caught the ball just after jumping from that spot, in which case it was legal (next foot down would have been his pivot, and that foot never returned until after the dunk).

Close enough to bring up, but not clear enough to criticize, IMO.

Uconn vs Syracuse
 

In 35 years officiating, when there was a question about a shot at the end of a game or overtime, we were always instructed to ask the timer "Where was the ball when the horn went off?" not "where was the ball when the clock went to 0:00?" I'm sure many official has had the clock go to 0:00 and the horn not sound. Wonder why this subject didn't come up at the end of regulation?
Any comment will be appreciated.

Because they have monitors and the on-court officials aren't going to leave this in the hands of a timer. Nor would I. Ever. At any level.

Those days are over, especially at the college level.

Peace

I appreciate all of your years of experience, but I'm guessing that most of those were at the HS level and any collegiate experience that you have was prior to the use of the video monitor. Basically, your question can be answered by taking a quick look at the latest NCAA ruling. It was handed down following a game a couple of years ago in which the clock and the LED lights were not synchronized.

Currently at the NCAA level the zeros ON THE GAME CLOCK has the highest priority. The LED lights are 2nd, and the horn sounding is 3rd.

Rule 2, Section 13, Article 4.
In games with a 10th-of-a-second game clock display and where an
official courtside monitor is used, the reading of zeros on the game clock
is to be used to determine whether a try for goal, a shot-clock violation or
a foul occurred before or after the expiration of time in any period. When
the game clock is not visible, the officials shall verify the original call with
the use of the red/LED light(s). When the red/LED light(s) are not visible,
the sounding of the game-clock horn shall be utilized. When definitive
information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call
stands.

This is not the case with the shot clock. For the shot clock the horn is controlling and the showing of zero does NOT indicate a violation.

Rule 2, Section 11, Article 9.
Sound the shot-clock horn at the expiration of the shot-clock period.
This shot-clock horn shall not stop play unless recognized by an official’s
whistle. When the shot clock indicates zeros but the shot-clock horn has not sounded, the shot-clock time has not expired.
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At the HS level under NFHS rules the SOUNDING OF THE HORN has the highest priority, even if there are supplementary lights per 2-12-7, 5-6-2, and 1-14.

2-12-7: "...Indicate by signal the expiration of playing time in each quarter or
extra period. If a supplementary red light is used, the timer’s signal is the official
expiration of playing time."

Do you remember what game this was? I only ask because there was a Missouri State/St. Louis game in December of 2005 where SLU won on a tip-in at the buzzer. They waved it off initially, then went to the monitor and counted it after video review, giving SLU the win. Only problem was the clock on the video was out of sync with the clock in the Scottrade Center. They couldn't see the clock or hear the horn. (There weren't LED lights on the backboard then)

About two days later, video came out showing the SLU player's hand still on the ball with the arena clock at zero and the clock from the video still at something like two tenths left. Gerry Pollard was the R in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIU5k_4cRos
(If you stop that video at the right time, you can hear the horn go off right before you pause it and his hand is still on the ball)

Here's one more view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olrfP...eature=related
(I believe there's a light on top of the shot clock that you can see go off while the ball is still on his hand)

This isn't sour grapes, as it was almost four years ago. Just wanted to get other opinions on it. (Although SLU's #15 does give a nice shove to MSU's #0 just before the tip-in)

Texas @ Providence
7:00 PM ET, January 5, 2004
Dunkin' Donuts Center
Providence, RI

79-77 in OT



Clock, light were not synchronized - Men's College Basketball - ESPN

Texas vs. Providence - Recap - January 05, 2004 - ESPN