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26 Year Gap Thu Mar 05, 2009 08:53am
This is a place that I have used the stop sign for fans once the ball has been given to the shooter. Usually, I will have them hustle through or wait till the FT is completed to make their trek. Hey, we're already the fashion police, so being a traffic cop is not that much of a stretch.

Amesman Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:03am
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 585609)
Hey, we're already the fashion police, so being a traffic cop is not that much of a stretch.
Really. Next up, notifying players they aren't drinking enough water to stay properly hydrated or halting spectators from returning to their seats too close to the bench with unhealthy snacks.

TheOracle Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:20pm
I think that you did the right thing.

Scrapper1 Thu Mar 05, 2009 02:17pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 585515)
That is correct. The mascot is a team follower and his actions could result in a team technical foul, but he is not an opponent and therefore cannot commit disconcertion.

The result of the attempted FT should have stood.
This is also my position. HOWEVER. . .

This exact scenario happened in a women's NCAA D2 game locally (I had the men's game following, that's how I know about it) and the officials called disconcertion. Their assignor backed them, and they apparently even got a ruling from the NCAA rules editor to support the call. I don't know if it will get published, but I personally think it's a bad ruling.

Only "opponents" can disconcert. Hard to see the mascot as an opponent.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Mar 05, 2009 05:57pm
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 585732)
This is also my position. HOWEVER. . .

This exact scenario happened in a women's NCAA D2 game locally (I had the men's game following, that's how I know about it) and the officials called disconcertion. Their assignor backed them, and they apparently even got a ruling from the NCAA rules editor to support the call. I don't know if it will get published, but I personally think it's a bad ruling.

Only "opponents" can disconcert. Hard to see the mascot as an opponent.


Scrapper1:

If that is the NCAA Women's ruling then the NCAA Women's Committee must have asked Barb Jacobs to come out of retirement to make the ruling because I agree with you 100% that it not only a bad ruling but a ruling that can not be defended by rule.

MTD, Sr.

Nevadaref Thu Mar 05, 2009 07:55pm
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 585732)
This is also my position. HOWEVER. . .

This exact scenario happened in a women's NCAA D2 game locally (I had the men's game following, that's how I know about it) and the officials called disconcertion. Their assignor backed them, and they apparently even got a ruling from the NCAA rules editor to support the call. I don't know if it will get published, but I personally think it's a bad ruling.

Only "opponents" can disconcert. Hard to see the mascot as an opponent.
It's really sad that someone from the NCAAW side thinks that. :(

Adam Thu Mar 05, 2009 08:15pm
You guys are breaking my heart.

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 05, 2009 08:41pm
I realize this strays a bit, but did anyone see the State Farm commercial with the squirrel mascot?

BillyMac Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:10pm
I Didn't Realize That Chuck Wore Glasses ???
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 585830)
I realize this strays a bit, but did anyone see the State Farm commercial with the squirrel mascot?
YouTube - State Farm Squirrel Mascot Wants Affordable Auto Insurance


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