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Terrapins Fan Fri Feb 20, 2009 09:47pm

How many "T"'s do you call per year?
 
Last year I called about 15 to 20. I had a shorter fuse and most of my "T"s were good. 1 or 2 I should have been more patient.

This year. Zero in December ( keep in mind I work 6 nights a week and double up 2 to 3 nights a week, so I do a lot of games. I'd say I have about 100 this season total. About 40 of those are HS Varsity. )

January 4. All good calls. 1 for a punch, 2 for players mouthing off and 1 for contact after the whistle.

February 3. All good calls. 2 profanity and 1 coach sounding off after being warned.

That's me. What about each of you?

deecee Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:31pm

40 this year for HS varsity :0 omg!!!

Last year I had about 7-9 between jv and var -- and this year I had maybe 4 3 Var and 1 JV. None this year on a coach and only 1 last year on a coach.

but 40 in one season!!!!! I cannot comment on whether they were earned or not but I do know around here if it turns out that an official is calling a lot of T's it raises a lot of red flags.

zm1283 Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 581701)
Last year I called about 15 to 20. I had a shorter fuse and most of my "T"s were good. 1 or 2 I should have been more patient.

This year. Zero in December ( keep in mind I work 6 nights a week and double up 2 to 3 nights a week, so I do a lot of games. I'd say I have about 100 this season total. About 40 of those are HS Varsity. )

January 4. All good calls. 1 for a punch, 2 for players mouthing off and 1 for contact after the whistle.

February 3. All good calls. 2 profanity and 1 coach sounding off after being warned.

That's me. What about each of you?

You've called 100 technicals this year? 40 in varsity alone? I think I've called six which includes one kid reaching over the line and slapping the ball on a throw-in.

Terrapins Fan Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:39pm

I have refereed 40 Varsity games. About 100 games total.

I have called 7 "T"'s this season.

UNH IM Ref Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:40pm

During a single night of intramurals at UNH we play about 18 games and average between 1.5 & 2 T's per night (our numbers may be skewed because we T for dunking to save rims & jewelry for insurance reasons) but the majority of T's are for too much talk or the occasional physical altercation.

I tend to throw down a few less T's than average because I put in a good deal of face time with the players and coaches before the game :D, our referee pool is also kind of small so we are all pretty well known and coaches don't really push us too much.

There was one night 2 months ago that I called 2 T's from the bench as a supervisor (controversial I know) because early in the season some of our officials are very green and the games they ref are preseason games. The last thing I will do is allow their rookie status to dictate how well they're treated during the game. But of course teach a man to fish (or to call his own t's) and he'll have dinner for life.

UNH IM Ref Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:43pm

***to clarify, it was an intramural game that I called the T's from the bench, not a middle school game. I do very little reffing at unh intramurals and so when I say I use less T's I'm talking about MS and not intramurals.

ODJ Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:48pm

I used to work 100-120 games per year and maybe had 5 per year.

1 this season. 1 last season.

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:03pm

I don't think the officiating.com server is big enough to handle the number I would post. Maybe I should start a new post: "How many T's do you call per quarter?"

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581706)
During a single night of intramurals at UNH we play about 18 games and average between 1.5 & 2 T's per night

Please - tell me how you call 1.5 technicals on someone. Sounds cool.

mbyron Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 581712)
Please - tell me how you call 1.5 technicals on someone. Sounds cool.

You have to call one on the coach's better half. ;)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 581701)
Last year I called about 15 to 20. I had a shorter fuse and most of my "T"s were good. 1 or 2 I should have been more patient.

This year. Zero in December ( keep in mind I work 6 nights a week and double up 2 to 3 nights a week, so I do a lot of games. I'd say I have about 100 this season total. About 40 of those are HS Varsity. )

January 4. All good calls. 1 for a punch, 2 for players mouthing off and 1 for contact after the whistle.

February 3. All good calls. 2 profanity and 1 coach sounding off after being warned.

That's me. What about each of you?



How many TF's do I call each year? NOT ENOUGH!! :D

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:18pm

I think I have given 4 this year. Only one of the Ts was on a head coach and another (tonight) for dunking and hanging on the rim. The rest were on players for their conduct. That is about the most I have given in some time for conduct. I usually am able to talk people out of stupidity or get them to drop dumb conversations. I think the player Ts were to young coaches that do not know how to control their players. These were totally preventable. Then again you do what you have to do.

Peace

cardinalfan Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:27pm

I cut back to about 80 games total this year, and I think I have given 1 to a head coach, 1 to an assistant coach, 2 to players for conduct, and had 1 scorebook violation.
I know that doesn't sound like many, but honestly after 15 years, I think coaches know what I take and what I don't.

tomegun Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:12am

I don't know how many I called this season, but I can tell I called more than most on this forum. I will not go into length (yet) about why I call more, but this is a sad situation I've been in.

I agree with MTD; I don't call enough and I don't think all officials call enough. This is a game of speed and skill. Too much other garbage comes into play and talking about it doesn't really work. It is really simple: we are more likely to not do something we are going to get penalized for than if we were only going to get "counseled" for it.

PSidbury Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:37am

3.

2 players, 1 coach.

Texas Aggie Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:51am

I had 5 or 6. 3 were in one game in a span of 30 seconds: player slams down ball; head coach comes out on the floor gesturing; bench coach throws clipboard! Earlier in the game my partner and I had a simultaneous whistle T against a player, but he reported it.

The thing about T's is this: if its there, you need to call it. Don't go looking for them, but I have zero tolerance for player misbehavior. If a coach responds to my warning and doesn't "get stupid," we're generally going to be OK. But if you're being harassed, you need to respond with a T.

Rich Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:17am

1 head coach, 1 player, same game.

bas2456 Sat Feb 21, 2009 02:01am

I've been sworn at a lot, accused of cheating once, and had one game where there were 5 technicals!

I've probably called 7 techs this season

Nevadaref Sat Feb 21, 2009 06:02am

I have called about a dozen this season. I've had years with only a handful and years with about 25.

I don't worry about the count. I just deal with the situations that arise and take care of business.

A Pennsylvania Coach Sat Feb 21, 2009 07:09am

8 so far this season. More after today. 2 men's rec games this afternoon, loudmouth league.

williebfree Sat Feb 21, 2009 08:23am

Not as many as I should have....
 
In reflecting about my past season, I have come to the realization that I am most disappointed about the "T"s that I did not give.

I worked approximately 125 games this year: 25 V, 40 sub-varsity, 60 MS level. I issued a dozen "T"s. 3 HC, 5 Players, 2 Bench, 2 Admin (book errors).

My philosophy on the use of the "T" has had a significant paradigm shift in the latter part of the season. I used to reserve the "T" as a last resort action. Now, I tolerate much less "crying" from players and coaches, moreso coaches because they are the "adults."

beachbum Sat Feb 21, 2009 08:29am

72 games half high school
this year
1 coach unsportsman like conduct
1 coach illegal substitution
2 players susportsmanlike conduct
3 player/bench delay of game after warning on inbounds plays

I wish I had one delay of game back...too quick with the whistle no adv/disadv

last year 60 games 2 technicals
1 coach
1 player for cussing

CLH Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:54am

I just finished my season Tuesday, I've ended this season with 72 games, 23 technicals, 2 player ejections, and 2 fan ejections.

So, now I'll sit back and let you guys jump on me for having so many, but dangit, sometimes you just gotta handle things! :p

CH

LocDog249 Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:13am

I have had 3 T's this year. All against players, and 2 of them were in my very first game of the season.

Adam Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:43am

1 directly on a coach for yelling at me, 2 book Ts, and one for 6 players on the court.

grunewar Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:18pm

I've only had 3 this yr (all players), which is down from previous yrs. Don't know the reason - more tolerance, managing the games better, players more behaved, whatever.

I don't like calling em and I also don't mind calling em. Just another foul to me. But, when they earn em.....I give em! ;)

DonInKansas Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 581701)
( keep in mind I work 6 nights a week and double up 2 to 3 nights a week, so I do a lot of games. I'd say I have about 100 this season total. About 40 of those are HS Varsity. )

That is a LOT of nights and games. Don't like being at home much?

Rich Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 581857)
That is a LOT of nights and games. Don't like being at home much?

I've only worked 35 (18 BV and 17 GV) and I consider it a full season.

JBleach85 Sat Feb 21, 2009 04:51pm

Technical Fouls
 
This year I only called one Technical. I actually got switched this year from the girls side to the guys side. I noticed that on the boys side in the area that I officiate a little more discipline and coaches don't really argue as much. The girls are also coached well just that the coaches at the JV level don't know when to coach thier team and talk to the officials. It was like everytime down the floor, 'My player got pushed.' "My player didn't walk, all she did was move both feet." (True story)

bigdogrunnin Sun Feb 22, 2009 07:17am

144 games so far . . .

4 on coaches (All Unsportsmanlike)

12-15 on players (includes 3 ejections: one with 2 T's, the other two for flagrant/fighting T's; most of the rest for whining about calls)

5-6 Administrative (including 2 sub. T's in one night)

Average over the past 4 seasons . . .

2 on coaches

5-6 on players

3-4 Administrative


It's been a busier year than usual.


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