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Originally Posted by shishstripes (Post 580569)

That is what I was taught to use at a camp where we covered violations in the classroom. There is no approved signal for fist and this official's reasoning was that it was grouped with kick, but to specify that it was for punching the ball verbally.

TRAVEL, KICK, FIST

I wonder why it isn't the Traveling with the Kick.
["And awaaay we go!" - Jackie Gleason with a little Traveling music]

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Originally Posted by shishstripes (Post 580569)

Been to several camps but never heard that before. Interesting reasoning.

We were told to close your fist and strike the palm of your other hand when making this call. Never had to do it as of yet and this is year 30.

I was C in a game this year when a caught a girl doing it in front of lead. She was trying to save the ball from going OOB, but the L called her for being OOB when she hit it. I told her on the way down the court that it was against the rules to punch the ball.

"For real?"
"yeah."

At participating locations only.

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 580556)

To me the reason for the fist rule is to reduce the potential for players swatting at balls or playing defense (in the vicinity of an opponent) with fists, which could certainly be intimidating and unsporting. The rules will (certainly) not state that a player may not make a fist, but it makes sense that playing the game with open hands is more applicable to the game of basketball.

mick: This is almost exactly what my interpreter said after I asked him about the this rule last year. I had called the violation after one player punched the ball to his teammate, while both were alone, with no defenders, in the backcourt. I won't make that call again.

I am pretty sure that we got a bulletin on this for NCAA games and the strike with a fist is to be handled in the same manner as a kick. Reset clock to 15 if under 15 seconds at time of violation.

Resurrection thread

Actually called my first fisting violation, Boys JV. Missed shot, defensive player surrounded by 3 offensive players jumps and punches the rebound towards his front court.

In order to keep the ladies in the crowd from getting excited, I chose verbalize the violations as "he punched the ball". :D

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Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 580472)

This violation, along with 10 seconds to shoot an FT, are two I've never seen called in my life. Anyway, last night, Men's Wreck League, point guard gets an inbound pass in his backcourt, all by himself, dribbles once, and the second dribble is whack-a-mole style, downward strike with the bottom of his fist, mad about something I guess. He continues his dribble and I call nothing, because it is rec league.

It got me to thinking about this, however. I was trying to decide if I would call it in a HS game. I mean, of course I'd call it at any level if any other player was near the fist-in-motion. But do I get this if the same situation as described above happens in a HS JV or V game?

I asked my partner but I don't know how much faith to put in his response. He said he wouldn't call it, but he doesn't call much apparently. Between games one of the guys who knew him was telling him a story about a T he got recently. His guy was getting "hammered in there" and he went to the official who was putting his whistle in his mouth, so he said, "if you are going to put your whistle in your mouth, blow it!" and got pinned. I said I'd T him too and my partner said "for what?" as he laughed.

I actually had a 10 second FT violation a couple of weeks ago, the first I have ever called or seen. Girls soph game two shot foul. First free throw I was a little slow in starting my count and got to about 9 and half. Second free throw, I payed more attention because the first took so long. Got to 12 and she still hadn't shot. Tweet. Send it.

Here's the only fist violation I've called last year. It was a double whistle and the two of us used the same "mechanic" for punching the ball... and we didn't even pregame it!

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Looked like you guys were driving a big rig in the disco days.

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 921071)

Here's the only fist violation I've called last year. It was a double whistle and the two of us used the same "mechanic" for punching the ball... and we didn't even pregame it!

Funny. It was a dumb play, too. She could have just grabbed it.