Will Welmer be back for March Madness?

[biz]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Welmer was didn't work the NCAA tournament by his own doing last year. He declined his NCAA tournament selection because he only got assigned one game in the first round instead of two games like most veteran officials. He felt he was not given respect.

Are we sure that this is the reason that he didn't work last year's tourney? I did some quick searching and Welmer only got a 1st round game in 2006 and 2007 as well.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by biz

Are we sure that this is the reason that he didn't work last year's tourney? I did some quick searching and Welmer only got a 1st round game in 2006 and 2007 as well.

It has to be personal. For a guy like Welmer who is so highly desired by so many schools and conferences to get such a crappy post-season schedule tells me the problem had to have been personal.

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It has to be personal. For a guy like Welmer who is so highly desired by so many schools and conferences to get such a crappy post-season schedule tells me the problem had to have been personal.

Depends on what you mean by 'personal.' It seems like you mean "Supervisor X doesn't like Welmer."

It could just as easily be that Supervisor X doesn't share the same outlook on Welmer's work as Supervisors Y and Z. I think it's an important distinction to make, even if your explanation is more accurate.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jbduke

Depends on what you mean by 'personal.' It seems like you mean "Supervisor X doesn't like Welmer."

It could just as easily be that Supervisor X doesn't share the same outlook on Welmer's work as Supervisors Y and Z. I think it's an important distinction to make, even if your explanation is more accurate.

I can't imagine what would be liked about Hightower's work (over and over and over again) and not Welmer's.

[tomegun]

This is a joke right? He doesn't advance further because coaches don't necessarily get who they want in the tournament. I sincerely hope members of this forum can tell the difference between Welmer and Hightower. For one, hightower is clearly a lead official. Hightower is willing to make a tight call for better or worse. Most of the time Welmer is just along for the ride. This is my opinion, but also the opinion of other D1 and pro officials.

Coaches and players love him, but I find it odd how the same people who we say don't know what they are talking about are used to validate other things. Convenient. I would encourage someone to break down a game tape and see if the officiating is what you thought it was.

Is he as bad as some other officials? Certainly not. But officials like Burr, Higgins, Luckie, Hess and hightower are clearly better.

Opportunity plays such a huge role. Any of us could find ourselves in a big game given the right opportunity - with your current skill set.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This is a joke right? He doesn't advance further because coaches don't necessarily get who they want in the tournament. I sincerely hope members of this forum can tell the difference between Welmer and Hightower. For one, hightower is clearly a lead official. Hightower is willing to make a tight call for better or worse. Most of the time Welmer is just along for the ride. This is my opinion, but also the opinion of other D1 and pro officials.

Coaches and players love him, but I find it odd how the same people who we say don't know what they are talking about are used to validate other things. Convenient. I would encourage someone to break down a game tape and see if the officiating is what you thought it was.

Is he as bad as some other officials? Certainly not. But officials like Burr, Higgins, Luckie, Hess and hightower are clearly better.

Opportunity plays such a huge role. Any of us could find ourselves in a big game given the right opportunity - with your current skill set.

I guess others like the bobbing and weaving, the added histrionics, and off-the-wall calls Hightower makes. I happen to think he's one of the more overrated guys in the last 20 years. But the guy doing the hiring gets to make those decisions.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This is a joke right? He doesn't advance further because coaches don't necessarily get who they want in the tournament. I sincerely hope members of this forum can tell the difference between Welmer and Hightower. For one, hightower is clearly a lead official. Hightower is willing to make a tight call for better or worse. Most of the time Welmer is just along for the ride. This is my opinion, but also the opinion of other D1 and pro officials.

Coaches and players love him, but I find it odd how the same people who we say don't know what they are talking about are used to validate other things. Convenient. I would encourage someone to break down a game tape and see if the officiating is what you thought it was.

Is he as bad as some other officials? Certainly not. But officials like Burr, Higgins, Luckie, Hess and hightower are clearly better.

Opportunity plays such a huge role. Any of us could find ourselves in a big game given the right opportunity - with your current skill set.

Why did I know that this thread would wake you from hibernation?

[bigdogrunnin]

That would be DOCTOR Ed Hightower. Thank you.

http://www.ecusd7.org/departments/su...nt/welcome.asp


I honestly don't know how he does it . . . being a Supt. is one of the most ridiculously busy jobs in America.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Why did I know that this thread would wake you from hibernation?

Because you know me personally, you know how I've been trained and what I'm about.
The fact that someone likes an official and gives them a hundred games unfortunately doesn't mean their officiating is on point.

One time I was at a camp and a NBA official was breaking down tape of a final four game. One official was doing a good job and is in the NBA now. One of the other officials was stinking it up. The person breaking down the tape was trying to train us. He didn't roll over and say all the calls were right because the officials were considered "big dogs" or worked a ton if games. He was looking at mechanics, positioning, call selection, courage, etc. I hate seeing officials jump around too, but I think I would take an official who jumps around with the courage to make tough calls.

I love my iPhone.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Because you know me personally, you know how I've been trained and what I'm about.
The fact that someone likes an official and gives them a hundred games unfortunately doesn't mean their officiating is on point.

One time I was at a camp and a NBA official was breaking down tape of a final four game. One official was doing a good job and is in the NBA now. One of the other officials was stinking it up. The person breaking down the tape was trying to train us. He didn't roll over and say all the calls were right because the officials were considered "big dogs" or worked a ton if games. He was looking at mechanics, positioning, call selection, courage, etc. I hate seeing officials jump around too, but I think I would take an official who jumps around with the courage to make tough calls.

I love my iPhone.

I know the game to which you are referring and I've kinda heard the same evaluation from a different source.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

That would be Doctor Ed Hightower.

I think I pulled my hamstring. I wonder if I could get some advice from him.

[BillyClyde 68]

Welmer will try to help out a new official. I tried to contact Hightower and he gave me the brush off. He thinks a game cannot be played unless he is the referee. they can and will!

[26 Year Gap]

Well, he could always go in studio & hike up Bobby Knight's shorts.