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fiasco Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:39am

My first post-season action
 
My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

grunewar Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:41am

Congrats! Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Scrapper1 Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:45am

Congrats. Around here, there is no JV post-season. I think it's a great idea, though, and hope you have a great game.

IREFU2 Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 576049)
My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

Congrats....we dont have post season JV in our area either. But I hope to get post season Varsity!!!!

JugglingReferee Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 576049)
My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

What a fiasco that is! :p

Congrats.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 576049)
My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

You must be in SoCal! Next year, you'll get the boys V state championship game then it's off to D1 and the following year, the NBA! :D

(Note the smilie - this isn't a comment on you, but on SoCal)

dacodee Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:27pm

I Missed Out
 
:mad::mad: I missed out on a great opportunity last weekend. Last summer, I attended a high school camp where there were Varsity Boys/Girls games. Out of know where, the camp director called me last Friday to work a County Tournament game. The problem is, he called my work phone and I wasn't in the office that day. When I returned to work on Monday, I received his voice message. I called him and left a message letting him know that he should call my cell. I haven't heard anything back. So, I'm guessing he thinks I'm pulling his leg or I just won't be needed for another tournament.

Congrats to you! :)

deecee Thu Feb 05, 2009 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 576082)
You must be in SoCal! Next year, you'll get the boys V state championship game then it's off to D1 and the following year, the NBA! :D

(Note the smilie - this isn't a comment on you, but on SoCal)

Why do you say that?

What's the big deal with just getting playofs. In all honesty the first couple rounds of girls varsity and even most boys varsity isnt much fun. The games are usually very lopsided as the higher seeded teams are way better than their opponents.

Until you get into the later rounds you are looking at a lot of cannon fodder.

TonyT Thu Feb 05, 2009 01:21pm

Jim Mora would say
 
PLAYOFFS? You got to be kidding, I would just like to officiate a regular game.

vbzebra Thu Feb 05, 2009 01:28pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576104)
Why do you say that?

What's the big deal with just getting playofs. In all honesty the first couple rounds of girls varsity and even most boys varsity isnt much fun. The games are usually very lopsided as the higher seeded teams are way better than their opponents.

Until you get into the later rounds you are looking at a lot of cannon fodder.

Not to speak for the original poster, but I think its an idea of "baby steps". You gotta start somewhere, and being a first year official, I would LOVE to have ANY playoff games my 2nd year, lopsided matchup or not. You can't replace game experience, no matter WHAT the game:D

fiasco Thu Feb 05, 2009 01:29pm

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Originally Posted by vbzebra (Post 576112)
Not to speak for the original poster, but I think its an idea of "baby steps". You gotta start somewhere, and being a first year official, I would LOVE to have ANY playoff games my 2nd year, lopsided matchup or not. You can't replace game experience, no matter WHAT the game:D

Agreed. Considering the large number of JV officials in our association, getting the JV playoffs is a huge vote of confidence.

The game may not be all that exciting, but I'll take the tip-of-the-hat nonetheless.

deecee Thu Feb 05, 2009 01:58pm

I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

vbzebra Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

"Sorry Mr. Assigner, I'll have to turn down this JV playoff game in my 2nd year. I know you just need warm bodies and I won't really gain any experience working THIS lower level playoff game :D

Just kidding, I hear what you're saying, but I would still take the game and enjoy it and work as hard as I could and learn as much as I could from my partner!

Scrapper1 Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 576113)
The game may not be all that exciting, but I'll take the tip-of-the-hat nonetheless.

Certainly better than a wag of the finger. . .

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X0vAJ3AvSg...00/tip+wag.jpg

fiasco Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

The reality of the situation is that they don't assign these games to some joe-blow off the street or the first JV official they can get on the phone.

So, while I would agree with you that the physical act of reffing the game doesn't necessarily help me progress, the fact that I am working the game indicates that I have progressed.

dacodee Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:23pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

Sorry :( But I have to disagree with deecee. It's more than needing warm bodies. In my area, there are plenty of warm bodies. Assignors for post season get a lot of pickings. When you're fortunate enough to be chosen, you can pat yourself on the back. And know that you've done a great job. You are being trusted to "not screw up". We've all seen the underdog pull out a victory over one of the top seeds. I doubt it very much if the assignor for post season would just put a warm body on these games. You should also know that people are watching. The help you get from these games are exposure. You do a good job, you'll get called back. You screw it up, it will hurt any future post season assignments and maybe your schedule for next season.

fullor30 Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 576049)
My 2nd year working JV and I got asked to do work girls JV post-season tournament tonight!

I know it's not much, but it means I'm progressing!

Holy Tabasco, that's magnifico Fiasco, is it in Frisco?

JugglingReferee Thu Feb 05, 2009 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 576140)
Holy Tabasco, that's magnifico Fiasco, is it in Frisco?

Booooooo!

slow whistle Thu Feb 05, 2009 04:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season.

Except the 60 point blowout in the post season pays more:)

slow whistle Thu Feb 05, 2009 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacodee (Post 576133)
Sorry :( But I have to disagree with deecee. It's more than needing warm bodies. In my area, there are plenty of warm bodies. Assignors for post season get a lot of pickings. When you're fortunate enough to be chosen, you can pat yourself on the back. And know that you've done a great job. You are being trusted to "not screw up". We've all seen the underdog pull out a victory over one of the top seeds. I doubt it very much if the assignor for post season would just put a warm body on these games. You should also know that people are watching. The help you get from these games are exposure. You do a good job, you'll get called back. You screw it up, it will hurt any future post season assignments and maybe your schedule for next season.

Agreed...you can't work a sectional final until you've worked a first round regional....under normal circumstances at least....and on the boys side forget about it, too much competition...

fullor30 Thu Feb 05, 2009 05:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 576142)
Booooooo!

BOOOO to you too Lou.

Adam Thu Feb 05, 2009 05:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

You might get games because all they need is a warm body, but don't project that to others on the board. And even if it was true, it's really not necessary or helpful to say.

Smitty Thu Feb 05, 2009 05:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 576124)
I hate to rain on your parade but they just need warm bodies for these games. Its just a fact of life. The only time you really gain experience is if a situation arises that you normally dont see, or if you start seeing play and skill that you are not used to. Like action above the rim. A 60 point blowout in the post season is the same as a 60 point blow out in the beginning of the season. The only difference is that if you ever want the later rounds you HAVE to have done the earlier rounds. But do not equate just doing a playoff game as gaining any gainful experience. You can do that over the regular season. Its just a necessary step in the process and IMO doesnt help you, nor does it hurt.

I dont mean to take away from your excitement but temper your expectations with the reality of the situation.

Sounds like someone has sour grapes. And it's kind of a jerky thing to say. Way to go. :rolleyes:

Texas Aggie Thu Feb 05, 2009 05:55pm

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they just need warm bodies for these games
This is almost certainly untrue. Around here in football, we have end of season "city championship" games for some jr. high schools in various school districts. Guys trip over themselves trying to get an assignment to these games -- even guys that don't ordinarily do jr. high games during the season (and those guys are wasting their time trying to get the assignment).

deecee Thu Feb 05, 2009 06:15pm

I do agree that my original post came off as extremly negative. But the point I was trying to make, and failed so miserably at doing so, was that take the inital playoff games with a grain of salt. I know plenty of officials that have been getting playoff games for many years, and all they do are first round games.

Once you start getting into the later round thats when it really counts. In the end making the playoffs is a good thing for your officiating career as it is a step forward. But many officials, and I have seen this happen, think that once they get those first round games they have made it to the holy grail.

And I want to apologize to the OP for being overly negative. I was trying to pepper in reality and in turn I can see that I was out of line. For that I do apologize, and congrats on taking a step forward. Just dont get comfortable on your laurels.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 05, 2009 06:44pm

If they only give playoff games to warm bodies, how come Bambi never gets assigned to any? :confused:

deecee Thu Feb 05, 2009 06:49pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 576201)
If they only give playoff games to warm bodies, how come Bambi never gets assigned to any? :confused:

Didn't you know that in a 2004 study it was found that deer's are cold blooded and the most closely related relative to the amphibian. Its troo.


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