Would you have done it different?
 

Last night I was working a senior high school boys wreck game. About 2 minutes into the game, my partners whistles A for a foul. As we are switching I ask A2 for the ball. He looks at me, then shoots it and I have to go chasing after the ball. Before I run it down, I hit A with a DOG.

Fast forward to the end of the game. There's about 45 seconds left, A down by 3 and they convert a fast break. While pressuring the inbounder, A3 reaches across the plane with both hands hindering B1 from moving along the baseline. I hit my whistle and call DOG #2 on A. Since this is a technical, I administer 2 free throws and my partner gives the ball to B at the time line.

The last part really has nothing to do with the situation but A is down by 3 with 15 seconds left, gets down the court and with B2 standing perfectly straight up, A1 decides to jump into him while attempting a 3 pointer. Team A, their coach and fans are screaming for a foul as B3 grabs the air ball and dribbles out the clock.

After the game I called one of my friends who is a long time official and officiates high school and small college basketball in the area. He said the only thing he might do different is since it was a 1 point game is hit the whistle after A crossed the plane and tell them to not do that. I believe that would give A an advantage in 2 ways, first it would stop the clock, 2nd it would give them a chance to set up their defense.

I'm curious as to what people's thoughts are on this situation.

1. It's not a DOG warning. This is a technical foul for failing to give the ball directly to an official.

2. Do not chase the ball. No one is watching the players while you're chasing the ball around the gym.

3. Did A3 foul B2 while reaching across? If so, it's an intentional foul and a DOG warning.

4. Good no-call.

5. With regard to the DOG warning, just do it by the book.

You "had to" chase after the ball? As I was taught years ago......if the players want to play, someone will chase after the ball. Not you!

PS - This especially works well if there is a running clock! Just stand there.....someone will get it!

Once had a player point and tell me "there's the ball" - I stood and answered, "yep":)

Stop right there. That's what I would do differently. ;)

Agree with Snaqwells... technical foul, turn and go report it (someone else will get the ball).
Yes, this is the second DOG in game, and not requiring a warning, per se. However, I probably would still blow the whistle and "remind" the players about the throw-in plane. Of course, if it is abused after that, the T's start flying.
Probably a no call. Would have to see it for myself.

I don't know if you have a pre-game with captains or the teams at center court, but part of my pre-game has always been (even at HS level), "Gentleman/Ladies, the referees are not going to chase balls. We cannot turn our backs on the court or players and we won't , so please keep the game running smoothly by retrieving the ball if you are closest to it."
Of course, I say this in a nice manner, not trying to give a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

Good luck !

I find that "The young folks chase the ball" gets the same message across without sounding so "officious." That said, I rarely give that speech -- and just ask whoever is closest to chase it down if / when the ball gets away.

Did you just happen to carry a dog with you onto the court? Did someone call the ASPCA? :D

If he used a poodle, no one will care. That's what they're for.

Those are my thoughts. :)

I always bring my seeing eye dog to the games. Who else is going to see the calls for me?

For the very reason bigdogrunnin suggest not to stop play and warn them again (you have no rules support), I would say not to give a DOG warning for the player shooting a dead ball after you asked for the ball. You have no rules support for that.

Could you give both a DOG AND a T?

What is DOG is clearly listed. This is not one of those situations.

LDUB is right. If you do issue the DOG, you have no rules backing later when you go straight to the T for what should have been a DOG warning.

I agree that there's no formal / rules book DOG warning here. But, there are certainly occasions where players coaches are told the behavior that's expected rather than being issued an immediate T. Sometimes, those "warnings" are in situations where the T would be for situations which delay the game.

WreckRef:

A number of esteemed posters have said that this is a good no call. I disagree for the following reasons.

1) There is no such thing as a no call. Either an infraction of the rules has occured or an infraction of the rules has NOT occured. But this reason is about semantics and is left to be discussed in another thread.

2) If you would have called this a charging foul in the first fifteen (15) seconds of the game it, then it should have been a charging foul in the last fifteen seconds of the game. You were lucky that A1's field goal attempt was an air ball.

Let me give you a very true life example:
1993 YBOA Boys' National Championship Tournament, Fifth Place game between a team from Florida (Team H) and a team from Tennessee (Team V). Five seconds left in the fourth quarter when Team V makes two free throws to take a three point lead. Team V presses Team H. H1's inbounds pass is caught by H2 at the division line and H2 starts to drive toward his basket, jumps into the air, releases the ball for a three-point field goal attempt, which touches nothing but net (which sends Team H's fans into joyous bedlam) and then, before returning to the court, crashes into V2 who had established a legal guarding position before H2 had become and airborne shooter. I still have a headache from slapping the back of my head with the charging call.

MTD. Sr.

The first situation is either a technical foul or a verbal admonition to the player if the the referee is kind. By rule a technical foul is warranted.
You cannot assess a team delay of game warning for this as it is not one of the four items listed in that rule.

Incorrectly issuing that team DOG warning earlier in the game caused problems later when you had to charge a team T for the breaking of the throw-in boundary plane. That should have been only the first DOG warning. See how important it is to handle the first situation properly?

Your decision on the final play seems fine. By your description this is either a PC foul or nothing. Don't penalize the defender for just standing there. He hasn't done anything wrong.