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bigdogrunnin Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:31pm

Link to ESPN video:

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The 3 officials on that game were: Rick Randall (13 yrs. D-1), J.B. Caldwell (13 yrs. D-1), Terry Oglesby (6 yrs. D-1)

All 3 are experienced officials, and let's just say that Dale Kelley, the Big 12 Coordinator of Officials wouldn't let a coach run off a good official and ruin their career. Especially when the officials got the call right.

Silly rabbit . . . tricks are for kids. :rolleyes:

Texas Aggie Mon Feb 02, 2009 02:17pm

It doesn't help that the idiot announcer on the video either didn't see or doesn't realize that the tech player was the one that initiated the contact.

Adam Mon Feb 02, 2009 05:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 574598)
It is unfortunate that he will likely be remembered for this incident as I doubt that he will be retained as the HC for next season at Texas Tech.

Maybe that's why Daddy is suddenly interested in coaching again. He needs another job to groom Jr. for.

eyezen Mon Feb 02, 2009 05:48pm

Its one thing to come out on the court to protest a call, but that was ridiculous, sprinting and gesturing ala KoKo Costanza all the way across mid court opposite table. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that at any level.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 02, 2009 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 574946)
It doesn't help that the idiot announcer on the video either didn't see or doesn't realize that the tech player was the one that initiated the contact.

What a shock - an announcer that doesn't get it!!! :eek:

BillyMac Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:14pm

If You Disagree With Her, She Throws A Chair At You Across The Boardroom Table ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ripcord51 (Post 574720)
Isn't wife Linda the CEO?

Linda McMahon was recently named to the Connecticut State Board of Education. Really. Seriously. You can't make this stuff up.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 03, 2009 02:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64 (Post 574672)
Those of you who have stated that the official got it right, please explain how he got it right?? I would really like to know how the official got this play right?

It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.

fullor30 Tue Feb 03, 2009 09:05am

That settles it...........showed it to my 13 year old son and asked who should be charged with the foul. "That's easy Dad, the guy in white uniform on the floor"

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Feb 03, 2009 09:08am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 575090)
Linda McMahon was recently named to the Connecticut State Board of Education. Really. Seriously. You can't make this stuff up.

Hmmm...wonder if corporal punishment will become the norm again in Connecticut? :D

Ref Ump Welsch Tue Feb 03, 2009 09:10am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 575202)
That settles it...........showed it to my 13 year old son and asked who should be charged with the foul. "That's easy Dad, the guy in white uniform on the floor"

I like your kid's thinking. He'll probably fast-track as an official once he gets started! :)

BTW, the Big 12 reprimanded Knight for his action, saying it violated the league's policy on public criticism of the officials. Nice.

Adam Tue Feb 03, 2009 09:28am

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 575172)
It was a hold on the Texas Tech player. The Nebraska player did nothing illegal. The official called the hold on the Texas Tech player.

Maybe Mr. Taylor can tell us how they got it wrong.

btaylor64 Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:13am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 575220)
Maybe Mr. Taylor can tell us how they got it wrong.

Nope not going to tell anything. I only got to see the play a couple of times and before seeing another replay i did not see the Texas Tech player clamp up the Nebraska player although i do disagree with JRut's earlier statement about this being a rough play. The tech player was just trying to perform a normal box out and the nebraska player was giving ground and then finally as the tech player is going down he clamps up the nebraska player and up until the moment of the clamp up i would not have had a foul.

GoodwillRef Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:34pm

I am shocked that he wasn't suspended by Texas Tech or the Big 12...he ran on the court TWICE!

JRutledge Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by btaylor64 (Post 575264)
Nope not going to tell anything. I only got to see the play a couple of times and before seeing another replay i did not see the Texas Tech player clamp up the Nebraska player although i do disagree with JRut's earlier statement about this being a rough play. The tech player was just trying to perform a normal box out and the nebraska player was giving ground and then finally as the tech player is going down he clamps up the nebraska player and up until the moment of the clamp up i would not have had a foul.

Well it really does not matter what you think of my opinion, because this play is an example of what they want called. Trying to box out someone is holding your position without holding, pushing and causing a violent reaction. You do not have to agree with me, the NCAA has not only spoken on this, and they have shown video of these kinds of plays.

BTW, go look at eofficial.com under the NCAA Men's Basketball section. Look under the NCAA Training Video under Chapter 6 and 11 and shows plays consistent with the NCAA Philosophy. Clearly they do not think what the TT player is legal.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Tue Feb 03, 2009 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 575349)
Well it really does not matter what you think of my opinion, because this play is an example of what they want called. Trying to box out someone is holding your position without holding, pushing and causing a violent reaction. You do not have to agree with me, the NCAA has not only spoken on this, and they have shown video of these kinds of plays.

BTW, go look at eofficial.com under the NCAA Men's Basketball section. Look under the NCAA Training Video under Chapter 6 and 11 and shows plays consistent with the NCAA Philosophy. Clearly they do not think what the TT player is legal.

Fwiw, I think your opinion is 114% correct. It's an obvious foul and not really a tough call either.


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