Tech and possession at quarter break?

[Adam]

You are right. Penalties do not carry over from one quarter.
The quarter does not end until all related activities are complete, this includes A1's free throw

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You are right. Penalties do not carry over from one quarter.
The quarter does not end until all related activities are complete, this includes A1's free throw

Has the NFHS defined "related activity?"

5-6-4 deals specifically with a T after a quarter has ended. 5-6-3 only uses the term "related activity."

What tells me that the T FTs should be shot before the next quarter starts?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Spence

Has the NFHS defined "related activity?"

5-6-4 deals specifically with a T after a quarter has ended. 5-6-3 only uses the term "related activity."

What tells me that the T FTs should be shot before the next quarter starts?

The part that says no penalties shall be carried over to the next quarter. The same thing that says if B1 commits a common foul (before the bonus) as the quarter expires, A does not get a throwin for the foul to start the next quarter.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You are right. Penalties do not carry over from one quarter.
The quarter does not end until all related activities are complete, this includes A1's free throw

Ok, so in the situation stated by Walter, A1's free throw ends the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter would start with Team A's free throws for the technical and Team A inbounding the ball even though Team B has the arrow. Is that correct?

[JS 20]

The NFHS "Rules by Topic" book states: "If a technical foul occurs after the ball has become dead to end a quarter, the next quarter is started by administering the free throws."

Also, in Walter's scenario, the head coach would be issued an indirect T as all players are bench personnell during intermissions.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JS 20

The NFHS "Rules by Topic" book states: "If a technical foul occurs after the ball has become dead to end a quarter, the next quarter is started by administering the free throws."

Also, in Walter's scenario, the head coach would be issued an indirect T as all players are bench personnell during intermissions.

This is incorrect. The ball will not become dead to end the third quarter (in walter's scenario) until the final free throw is completed.

[JS 20]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

This is incorrect. The ball will not become dead to end the third quarter (in walter's scenario) until the final free throw is completed.

You're right, my bad on that.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Ok, so in the situation stated by Walter, A1's free throw ends the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter would start with Team A's free throws for the technical and Team A inbounding the ball even though Team B has the arrow. Is that correct?

No, because the technical foul was called before the free throws had been attempted; that means the technical foul was called in the third quarter and it's penalties cannot be carried over to the next.

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=Rufus;573594]Ok, so in the situation stated by Walter, A1's free throw ends the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter would start with Team A's free throws for the technical and Team A

No (unless I'm misreading the play).

The play was: Foul, Horn, T, FTs for the foul.

The quarter doesn't end until the FTs are shot. So, the T was during the third quarter. The FTs for the T will be shot as part of the third quarter and there will be no throw-in as part of the T.

The fourht quarter will start "as usual" -- with an AP throw-in determined by the arrow.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No (unless I'm misreading the play).

The play was: Foul, Horn, T, FTs for the foul.

The quarter doesn't end until the FTs are shot. .

IF the T had been assessed after the 2 FTs were shot would the qtr have ended before the T? Say they were walking to the bench and the T was assessed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Spence

IF the T had been assessed after the 2 FTs were shot would the qtr have ended before the T? Say they were walking to the bench and the T was assessed.

Then yes, the T would be part of the next quarter.

[Rufus]

Thanks Snaqwells and Bob. I understand the rule a lot better now, that's for sure, and will be sure to call it that way.

[GrogInOhio]

Outstanding responses...

Thanks to all...