Tech foul is also a personal foul?
Player reaches accross line and strikes ball while still in possesion of the thrower - automatic tech. Does this also count against his personal foul total?
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Yes sir.
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At the NFHS level and the NCAA level?
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2008-09 NCAA Men's Pg 136
Section 6. (MEN) CLASS B TECHNICAL INFRACTIONS
Art. 1. A technical foul shall be assessed to a player or a substitute for the following infractions: j. Reach through the throw-in boundary-line plane and touch or dislodge the ball while it is in possession of the thrower or being passed to a teammate outside the boundary line as in 7-5.8.a. PENALTY: Article 1 and Article 2.a through i. Two free throws shall be awarded to any member of the offended team. All infractions count toward ejection but do not count toward the team-foul total or disqualification. |
Thanks for the NCAA clarification ... what about NFHS?
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The OP does not count towards the coach, either, as it's a player tech rather than a bench player tech. |
Delay Of Game Player Technicals ???
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There are technical fouls which are charged directly to an individual player for delaying the game, but they are NOT for one of the four items listed under the DOG warnings. |
Team Technical Versus Player Technical ???
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NFHS 10-3-5-A: Player Technical: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play. Nevadaref: If a player delays the game by "preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play", how do you differentiate a team technical from a player technical? The wording seems very similar in both rules, almost exactly the same? I'm confused, as usual. |
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2. Is there still a provision for an offensive violation for your arm crossing the boundary while making throw in? |
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2) There <b>NEVER</b> was a provision for an offensive violation for the thrower's arm crossing a boundary line during a throw-in. <b>EVER!</b> |
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See any correlation? |
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Nice Try, But, As Usual, I'm Still Confused ???
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1) Free throw huddle. 2) Defender crossing plane of boundary line during a throwin. 3) Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play. 4) Failure to have court ready after timeout (water on court). bob jenkins: I'm still confused about 10-3-5-A: Player Technical: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play. Is delaying the game by "preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play" always a team technical, or can it be a player technical, and how do you tell the difference. If it's always a team technical, why the need for 10-3-5-A? Sorry, but I'm still confused. |
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What happens? Play on. |
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The two plays that I see when "Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play"... are, for example, when a player hits the ball after a made basket. I have one of the four DOG warnings. ...the other delay, for example, is when a player might not give the official the ball when requested. There I have a player T. Both are delays...but, each have different consequences to the player. |
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Look -- sometimes s*** happens. So, the rules committee decided that when certain, relatively common, and sometimes accidental things happen, the team should be given a pass the first time. Those 4 things get warnings. Other delays get a T. Prior to last year (?), it would / could / should have been a T for spilling water during a TO (and not having it cleaned up, etc.). That would have been penalized under 10-1-5a. Now, its part of the warnings. Here's one possibility of a player T under 10-3-5A: Player A1 takes a "legal guarding position" in front of player B1 who is trying to move to become the inbounder. Player A1 continues to move and "block" B1 frome getting to the inbounds spot, and refuses to stop after the official asks tghe player to stop. |
The Most Confused Forum Member ???
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My interpretation of the above (when thrower in touches legally positioned defensive player) would be a throw in violation for failure to throw the ball directly into the court. |
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Please take a look at 9-2-10 Note: "The thrower may penetrate the plane provided he/she does not touch the inbounds area before the ball is released on the throw-in pass. The opponent in this situation may legally touch or grasp the ball." |
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First, you have one of the DOG warnings incorrect. Secondly, there are provisions in the rules book to cover non-DOG situations in which either a team or a player delays the game. These situations have nothing at all to do with the DOG warnings. Furthermore, it is generally clear whether to penalize the individual player or the entire team. Here are a few examples: a. Player fails to be in the semi-circle to attempt the FTs when the official is ready to administer. b. Player fails to give the ball to the nearest official following a whistle, such as after a foul or violation. c. A team fails to return to the court in a timely manner after the halftime intermission (stays in the locker room) and delays the restart of the game by a full minute. d. A team fails to have two players occupy the two marked lane spaces nearest the basket during an opponent's FT attempt and the RPP is not in effect. |
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